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Transport committee  There's another question you have to ask: what is the security that's been provided? That's not clear to me.

November 30th, 2010Committee meeting

Dr. Mark Salter

Transport committee  I don't, not specifically. They've certainly been empowered since the passage of the U.S. Patriot Act. I think the question is whether the government wants to make this easy for the U.S. government or make it difficult--that is, whether or not it wants to send PNR data to the U

November 30th, 2010Committee meeting

Dr. Mark Salter

Transport committee  The only question is whether we'd give it to them with a bow on or whether or they'd have to go through the GDSs.

November 30th, 2010Committee meeting

Dr. Mark Salter

November 30th, 2010Committee meeting

Dr. Mark Salter

Transport committee  Yes. We can document the restriction of the ability for Canadians to legitimately travel because they have been put on the U.S. no-fly list in a way that prevents redress. What we are doing is adding to that potential population of restricted Canadians, because they are now submi

November 30th, 2010Committee meeting

Dr. Mark Salter

Transport committee  Can you please repeat the question?

November 30th, 2010Committee meeting

Dr. Mark Salter

Transport committee  I fully agree with you and share your concern about the privatization of this government responsibility. to gather up or collect security data, and to do security analyses and policing. I think Transport Canada created the list so that when airlines get a message from the mini

November 30th, 2010Committee meeting

Dr. Mark Salter

Transport committee  The API data, the advance passenger information that includes name, date of birth, and gender, is sufficient for the American secure flight program. I agree with the longer-term consequences that Mr. Hasbrouck speaks of, but that's the minimum that's required.

November 30th, 2010Committee meeting

Dr. Mark Salter

Transport committee  No. I think that it's a serious matter of concern, but I think there are ways to address it other than by trying to compel something that's--

November 30th, 2010Committee meeting

Dr. Mark Salter

Transport committee  That brings up the question of sovereignty perfectly, because there is no way for Canada to require other countries to have a redress mechanism for our citizens. Our ability to provide redress stops at our border. One can think of the case of Maher Arar in this regard. He remains

November 30th, 2010Committee meeting

Dr. Mark Salter

Transport committee  I think that Mr. Hasbrouck points rightly to the EU negotiations with America on PNR data, and then the EU-Canada negotiations. Canada and the EU managed to have an international treaty on the exchange of PNR data that was praised by data and privacy authorities precisely because

November 30th, 2010Committee meeting

Dr. Mark Salter

Transport committee  Thank you for this question. I guess we could answer that one of the responsibilities of the Government of Canada is to fight for the economic interests and the safety of Canadians. We can answer the U.S. by saying that we have a different approach of law and risk as well as a

November 30th, 2010Committee meeting

Dr. Mark Salter

Transport committee  Personally, I think it is the API data.

November 30th, 2010Committee meeting

Dr. Mark Salter

Transport committee  It is the Advance Passenger Information, which only includes the name, the date of birth and the sex of the passenger. It also includes the record locator because the U.S. Secure Flight Program uses an automated system that compares this information to the contents of their datab

November 30th, 2010Committee meeting

Dr. Mark Salter

Transport committee  Thank you. I think you are correct in pointing to the U.S. as the one who demands that information now. I think also that Canada has shown itself capable of negotiating well, both with the United States and with the EU, on PNR and other matters relating to aviation security. For

November 30th, 2010Committee meeting

Dr. Mark Salter