National Defence committee  Ultimately, sir, that would be a Boeing decision, depending on what we see as production requirements going forward. We have requirements to meet the program of record.

National Defence committee  I believe you're probably talking specifically about tooling?

National Defence committee  Sir, I'm going to have to get back to you on that. I believe parts of the tooling is Boeing-owned, but I will get you a whole answer on that, sir.

National Defence committee  No, sir, it does not. Again, I would say this discussion around fourth and fifth generation has now almost become pure marketing, so I think a better discussion would be around very specific requirements and what weapon system best meets those requirements at the best price.

National Defence committee  Sir, again, as I answered previously, I believe, depending upon the level of that pricing information, I would need to go back and ensure that there was not Boeing proprietary information that was released in that publicly. Again, that would be more up to the United States Navy.

National Defence committee  Sir, at this point in time, the multi-year two price was approximately $52.3 million. The current multi-year three price without engines is $42.3 million in then-year dollars, so I would have to go back and make sure and do the math to equate it to.... And that is a domestic pric

National Defence committee  The full-up, go-to-war for a multi-year two pricing, come down again 10% on that, was approximately $53 million, sir.

National Defence committee  That's the total program of record, sir, with the multi-year three, 124 aircraft.

National Defence committee  Certainly rate can impact cost. Projected rate and how fast one comes down a learning curve certainly would need to be factored into that.

National Defence committee  That is a consideration. Probably a larger lever is overall reliability and maintainability positions for the incumbent weapon system you're talking about, sir.

National Defence committee  At this point in time, on firm orders it is 2015.

National Defence committee  Again, I would submit to you that as the program manager here I am confident that we will be producing these aircraft well past 2020. I think you need to look at even, for example, history on another line in St. Louis, and the ability to extend production there, sir. I'm confiden

National Defence committee  Absolutely, sir. Yes.

National Defence committee  Yes, sir. On the fixed price, one thing that would be worth noting there is if you are also talking about fixed prices for 20 years of support, not just the procurement.

National Defence committee  I would share with you, sir, that would certainly be an option. We would likely submit to you that a more affordable option, because of some of the incumbent risks that occur over 20 years, might be to go ahead and price commensurate with aircraft delivery and then options beyond