Public Safety committee  Having Nathalie go first means that she basically says everything I want to say, but better. I am concerned about this dichotomy between victims and offenders and everyone in between. I don't think we're trying to make Canada less safe—far from it. We are concerned about Canadia

Public Safety committee  At the risk of being facile, I would say that if the Supreme Court has already told us what the law ought to be, then that's how we should construct our laws. I agree with Ms. Des Rosiers that it doesn't seem terribly efficient for us to possibly have to go and relitigate this

Public Safety committee  I think these safeguards are very important. I must confess that I think you're more familiar with my previous testimony than I am at this point, but I believe when I made that reference to the potential misapplication of the law, it was in reference to the same thing that Ms. De

Public Safety committee  Yes.

Public Safety committee  Basically it's the main provision, which is the creation of an inter-agency oversight mechanism, either by way of an umbrella committee or by creating the statutory gateways that Justice O'Connor referred to, which would permit the existing review agencies to look beyond the narr

Public Safety committee  I have very similar concerns to those of Nathalie. The only thing I would add to what Nathalie has already quite compellingly said is that establishing guilt is a very different thing from establishing dangerousness. By simply deeming someone as dangerous, that really just preemp

Public Safety committee  I think the issue is that the current criminal law, as it exists, is completely capable of identifying and prosecuting these, as we saw in the Toronto prosecutions. It's unclear why we need to create further criminal offences to capture conduct that is already criminalized.

Public Safety committee  In terms of the level of proof required in this case, the mens rea is quite high. So to that degree, we're comforted by that. But we are very concerned that we continue to criminalize, not just with respect to these training offences but by increasing the penalties. I mean, the f

Public Safety committee  Thank you very much. Good afternoon. It is such an honour and a privilege to appear before this committee again. On behalf of the B.C. Civil Liberties Association, I wish to thank you for this opportunity to present on Bill S-7. The BCCLA is a non-profit, non-partisan organiza

Public Safety committee  I'll be brief; I think we all want to speak on this subject. I think it's imperative that we have proper oversights. Of course we appreciate that there is a civilian oversight over CSIS in the form of SIRC, but I think the recommendations by previous inquiries are that there be

Public Safety committee  The only thing I would add to my colleague, Ms. Des Rosiers, is that the Toronto 18 prosecution was a very good example of disrupting a future terrorist attack, so it doesn't go to only prosecuting acts of terrorism that have already occurred, but preventing future attacks.

Public Safety committee  We are unaware of any specific examples. I understand that this committee has not heard of any specific examples either.

Public Safety committee  I'm not sure if that's precisely what's at issue here. Certainly I think that CSIS has an important function in this society and in protecting Canadians. The accusations made by Mr. Fadden with respect to potential foreign influences from the Chinese community or Chinese people i

Public Safety committee  Thank you very much. Good morning. My name is Carmen Cheung, and I'm counsel with the British Columbia Civil Liberties Association. On behalf of the BCCLA, I wish to thank the members of the committee for the invitation and opportunity to present on Bill C-17today. The BCCLA is