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Public Safety committee  I'm going to defer that question to my colleague, Allen Benson, who is going to be on the next panel. He's better placed to answer that than I am.

November 8th, 2018Committee meeting

Catherine Latimer

Public Safety committee  The John Howard Society generally has a problem with the quality of the health care and the independence of the health care professionals. They're all under contract to CSC, so again, CSC's security interest seems to trump what's needed for the prisoner's health on any given day.

November 8th, 2018Committee meeting

Catherine Latimer

Public Safety committee  The other reasons why they're placed in the unit or...?

November 8th, 2018Committee meeting

Catherine Latimer

Public Safety committee  It could be mental health issues. I don't know if it's the same on the women's side, but from our experience, generally prisoners who are asserting their rights tend to be seen as problem inmates and tend to end up more in these units. They're not doing anything other than stand

November 8th, 2018Committee meeting

Catherine Latimer

Public Safety committee  They're the process protections, which are the independent oversight, the right to counsel and some meaningful process to determine why your residual rights are being denied because you're being placed in this stricter, more confined environment. You would need to have the resour

November 8th, 2018Committee meeting

Catherine Latimer

Public Safety committee  The John Howard Society's position is that the abolition, the out-and-out abolition, of administrative segregation is not a good idea. Administrative segregation is a necessary tool as a short-term solution to—

November 8th, 2018Committee meeting

Catherine Latimer

Public Safety committee  Disciplinary is different.

November 8th, 2018Committee meeting

Catherine Latimer

Public Safety committee  Our view is that you need to have the capacity to immediately separate prisoners who are exhibiting violence with each other or towards the guards, any others or themselves. You need to be able to do that fairly quickly. It's an emergency short-term situation. It would be better

November 8th, 2018Committee meeting

Catherine Latimer

November 8th, 2018Committee meeting

Catherine Latimer

Public Safety committee  Altogether...? Absolutely, yes. We want to see—

November 8th, 2018Committee meeting

Catherine Latimer

Public Safety committee  Many of the men I have interviewed who have been in administrative segregation have told me that they're been presented with opportunities to go to the yard at six o'clock in the morning when it's freezing cold and dark outside, and when they decline, that's it. That's the end of

November 8th, 2018Committee meeting

Catherine Latimer

Public Safety committee  There are really three bases on which I think you shouldn't be pursuing the bill, but certainly there's no chance that you're going to be able to implement it consistent with the vision that Minister Goodale and his team presented to you unless you have the resources in place. Th

November 8th, 2018Committee meeting

Catherine Latimer

Public Safety committee  I haven't, but I am an old federal Department of Justice person. I spent eight or nine years as a PCO analyst. In my day, you wouldn't get to a cabinet committee unless you costed your bill. You're creating a downstream fiscal hit without the resources to back it up.

November 8th, 2018Committee meeting

Catherine Latimer

Public Safety committee  That's exactly what you're hearing.

November 8th, 2018Committee meeting

Catherine Latimer

Public Safety committee  There's no chance of delivering that vision with an absence of resources to support it.

November 8th, 2018Committee meeting

Catherine Latimer