Public Safety committee  Certainly the Ontario ombudsman, who has seen.... Ontario prisons have seen an increase in population base, in many cases. Over the last 18 months or so, he has seen a significant increase in complaints about violence against inmates, either by other inmates or by guards. He is d

Public Safety committee  I don't know the 20, and I would assume not. I would assume, as I mentioned before, that some of them are acting on behalf of inmates who are less capable of filling out grievances and raising them. I would think some of them are suffering from paranoia.

Public Safety committee  Yes.

Public Safety committee  Again, I'm caught up with the definition and who makes the determination.

Public Safety committee  But what if his ice cream was always coming in a melted form? What if his desserts were always...? First of all, they don't get desserts any more.

Public Safety committee  I'm more comfortable with a complaint being seen as vexatious than with the person who's making the complaint being designated as vexatious.

Public Safety committee  Let me give you an example. Let's say that you were an insulin-dependent diabetic and you did not get your insulin in time every day, and you grieved once and they said “Fine, we'll try to make it better”, but the next day it wasn't any better, and you still didn't get your insul

Public Safety committee  No.

Public Safety committee  I'm still perplexed by how it will actually be carried out.

Public Safety committee  It depends how you're defining vexatious—

Public Safety committee  No, it really does. I can't answer it unless you're telling me how you're defining vexatious.

Public Safety committee  I think all those are positive.

Public Safety committee  Yes, I am.

Public Safety committee  I'm not that familiar with civil law, but I would assume there are measures against it, once having defended a set of—

Public Safety committee  I think it's likely to be a variety of people. One of the things the Correctional Investigator has pointed out is that offenders who are better able to write, more literate, better educated, tend to file more grievances on behalf of some of the other inmates who have difficulty d