International Trade committee  Yes.

International Trade committee  Yes, they've turned against it. Again, many of the unions, but particularly the Steelworkers, have been very vocal with the State Department, and very decent, but they're asking real hard questions.

International Trade committee  The Jordan agreement, but no others, and that ended up being a failure.

International Trade committee  NAFTA? No. No, we've been to Mexico quite a bit. It's not in good condition.

International Trade committee  Frankly, I spend my—

International Trade committee  The Rich Pine factory is Taiwanese-owned, with Chinese workers, mostly. They don't come from Taiwan. They come from the mainland. The Classic factory is owned by a manager in India, who got most of his money in Dubai.

International Trade committee  Well, yes, under the U.S.-Jordan free trade agreement the rights are quite specific. They're the ILO, International Labour Organization, rights for collective bargaining and organizing. Jordanian law is completely different. Recently, when we were in Jordan we saw the president

International Trade committee  Yes, Anil Santha has a long history of raping women. He did it in Dubai, and he did it in Kuwait, I think. People know him quite well.

International Trade committee  He has now been suspended, but we don't really know what the status is. He's not entering the factory every day, but he is still in Jordan.

International Trade committee  It's been over 25 years.

International Trade committee  Well, actually, the U.S.-Jordan free trade agreement was the model, and it was endorsed by the AFL-CIO. It was endorsed by the labour movement in the United States. It was endorsed by very progressive unions like the Steelworkers. In other words, this was really the first breakth

International Trade committee  Well, it would have been the Jordan one, but in fact we travelled to Mexico. There were many problems under NAFTA. We went to Central America. We worked there for years. There were lots of problems under the U.S.-Central America free trade agreement. We were hoping that the Jorda

International Trade committee  Yes, it's not being upheld.

International Trade committee  In the case of Jordan in particular, this is a very strange free trade agreement, because you have guest workers coming from China, Bangladesh, India, Sri Lanka, and Myanmar; the Jordanians wouldn't work in the factories. Only now are Jordanians working in the factory, and usuall

International Trade committee  I think the problem in Jordan is that there's very little actual research on worker conditions and factory conditions. It sounds maybe too bad to say it, but Jordan is a very corrupt country. You can buy anybody off very easily. For example, with the Rich Pine Factory I just sp