Transport committee  I would like to clarify one thing, Mr. Brosseau. You are talking about aerospace trades, but there is a difference between a certified technician who gets a licence from Transport Canada to fly an airplane—

Transport committee  —and someone who builds an airplane at Bombardier, for example. With regard to the centralization of these qualified technicians, the 2,400 technicians that are leaving today represent the disappearance of perhaps 75% of all these occupations.

Transport committee  In my opinion, the work has disappeared. I have planes that have gone to Rome, to New York, to TIMCO Aviation Services. I have others that are in Singapore and El Salvador.

Transport committee  They are American facilities. I saw the same meeting of the Standing Committee on Transport.

Transport committee  I think that, with your help, there would be a way to talk to the people at Air Canada and to let them know that the companies have the tools and facilities. They may need a partner to survive. Everyone is talking about Lufthansa but it could be another company. Air Canada could

Transport committee  Let us consider the maintenance, repair and overhaul centres in the world. Lufthansa Technik is a German company that is a subsidiary of Lufthansa. Right now, Air France does all its own maintenance. Air Canada's Boeing 777 engines are sent to Air France, where the three services

Transport committee  Ms. Chow, you hit the nail on the head. Minister Flaherty said—not all the way back in 1988 but just last year—that Air Canada was complying with the act because Aveos was a subsidiary. Aveos was using Air Canada's facilities, but now it is no longer doing so. We are not going al

Transport committee  The government has a responsibility. Whether it be Aveos, Lufthansa Technik or any other company, Air Canada must guarantee the contracts. No investor is going to get involved if Air Canada does not guarantee that the contracts will go to these cities. It is in the spirit of the

Transport committee  I will let my colleague from Winnipeg answer that question.

Transport committee  I have not been told that, but you may have a point.

Transport committee  It could be a result of the fact that we are putting pressure on the governments and we are trying to get our employees back to work. Managers are perhaps exerting pressure in another way, by not paying employees or by not giving them their termination forms. It would be really—

Transport committee  It is not said.

Transport committee  I have been part of the company from the beginning of this process. This is just my opinion, but I do not believe that all the managers who were transferred to Aveos were fully aware of the plan that brought us to where we are today. I think that all these decisions were made by

Transport committee  I think that people are beginning to have a clearer understanding of what is happening. As I explained a few weeks ago, there is a spirit underlying this act. You are all parliamentarians and you all know how it works when a law is established. A legislative committee meets and t

Transport committee  I know that Aveos is downsizing. Many people are leaving. There are about three people left to take care of some 2,600 employees. That is not a very big team and it is unable to even provide employees with termination forms right now. We have mentioned how these employees are not