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Public Safety committee  I think we would have to talk to our justice colleagues and get back to you on that. I'm not aware of any.

April 24th, 2018Committee meeting

John Davies

Public Safety committee  I'm not sure how to answer that. I'm not sure. It may be common; it may not be common.

April 24th, 2018Committee meeting

John Davies

Public Safety committee  There's no reporting down. They're encouraged to co-operate and deconflict and so on. There is a way to move information that's necessary between them.

April 24th, 2018Committee meeting

John Davies

Public Safety committee  As was said, CSE has been dealing with review as a distinct unit in its agency for the last 20 years to manage oversight and review. It's the same thing with CSIS and with SERC for the last 30 years. They are already conditioned to deal with review. There is certainly more themat

April 24th, 2018Committee meeting

John Davies

Public Safety committee  Again, NSIRA is not new for CSE and CSIS in the sense that they already have a review. The new parts of NSIRA are inter-agency review.

April 24th, 2018Committee meeting

John Davies

Public Safety committee  I understand that. One comment would be that I think behind this is some concern that if there's so much administrative burden on the agencies, it would affect the normal national security activities. If that was ever apparent, obviously, the committee of parliamentarians or NSI

April 24th, 2018Committee meeting

John Davies

Public Safety committee  I'll just add to that. As was already said, the law is already clear in the charter of rights, the Criminal Code, and international law, all of which are noted in the preamble in LIB-16, so we think the law in this area is pretty clear.

April 24th, 2018Committee meeting

John Davies

Public Safety committee  I would just add that, obviously, CSE is not targeting its activities to Canadians. For CSIS, that's essential to their mandate, so there's probably more attachment to the phrase of the charter in their act.

April 23rd, 2018Committee meeting

John Davies

Public Safety committee  More recently, it would be just normally through a web release of a media relations product. Certainly, in the past it has been through access to information requests, but, obviously, there's certainly a new interest in being more proactive in explaining to Canadians ministerial

April 23rd, 2018Committee meeting

John Davies

Public Safety committee  I'm not sure if the Canada Gazette is the right vehicle to do that. The Gazette is usually used for advertising regulatory change and consulting Canadians in that way on change about to come. Earlier on, there were amendments to ensure that NSIRA would be looking at and reviewin

April 23rd, 2018Committee meeting

John Davies

Public Safety committee  I would have to pull out the amendment, but I believe that there would be a requirement that in their annual report there would be some commentary on that finding.

April 23rd, 2018Committee meeting

John Davies

Public Safety committee  They would be asked to review all new ministerial directions and any changes to existing ministerial directions.

April 23rd, 2018Committee meeting

John Davies

Public Safety committee  I'd have to pull out the amendment. I thought there was a requirement. There certainly would be an expectation that they would comment on that work in their annual report.

April 23rd, 2018Committee meeting

John Davies

Public Safety committee  This is a change to a definition.

April 23rd, 2018Committee meeting

John Davies

Public Safety committee  This is not adjusting functions or duties of CSE. They could have ministerial authorization through warrant powers and so on that would not preclude the scenario you're talking about.

April 23rd, 2018Committee meeting

John Davies