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Natural Resources committee  In terms of collecting data in most regions of the province on an aggregated basis, it's not a problem. Once in a while Statistics Canada, as you likely know, will report that a particular population in a particular geographic area is too small to do that without aggregating it w

May 22nd, 2018Committee meeting

Theresa McClenaghan

Natural Resources committee  No, I don't have that data. That would be an important question. It is something I noticed that the California study did look at when they were looking at access to zero-emission transportation, for example. That's important for sure.

May 22nd, 2018Committee meeting

Theresa McClenaghan

Natural Resources committee  Absolutely, I agree. Often a vehicle is necessary to get to work, for example, and public transit is not available.

May 22nd, 2018Committee meeting

Theresa McClenaghan

Natural Resources committee  We haven't done a calculation on the national programs. I don't have the number offhand, but I can get a reference for the committee. We have done submissions as both CELA and the Low-Income Energy Network to the Ontario Energy Board around some of the implications of cap and tra

May 22nd, 2018Committee meeting

Theresa McClenaghan

Natural Resources committee  Yes, we know that there is high willingness. For example, some of our colleagues at other organizations in Toronto were part of some of the tower programs there, looking at educating tenants about the importance of reducing energy not only for their own comfort but for climate ch

May 22nd, 2018Committee meeting

Theresa McClenaghan

Natural Resources committee  As I said, some of the data is collected by Statistics Canada, but if the national energy agency of some type is going to be collecting specific energy data, we would like them to be looking at participation rates by low-income consumers and families in the climate mitigation pro

May 22nd, 2018Committee meeting

Theresa McClenaghan

Natural Resources committee  You're welcome.

May 22nd, 2018Committee meeting

Theresa McClenaghan

Natural Resources committee  I think Stats Canada probably has the ability to get at much of this data, yes.

May 22nd, 2018Committee meeting

Theresa McClenaghan

Natural Resources committee  In the past we've said to this committee and others, in many other years, that we just wanted government to take action on climate change and take a broad tool kit of regulatory and pricing models. We weren't specifically advocating whether it should be cap and trade, or carbon t

May 22nd, 2018Committee meeting

Theresa McClenaghan

Natural Resources committee  Again, most of our direct work is here in Ontario. The Ontario Energy Board does collect important information on the programs that are being rolled out here. In addition, on broader energy issues the past reports of the National Energy Board and the Ontario Energy Board have bee

May 22nd, 2018Committee meeting

Theresa McClenaghan

May 22nd, 2018Committee meeting

Theresa McClenaghan

Natural Resources committee  That's for electricity and heating, so the household use, not the transportation use, is within this figure. If a family is somewhere in Ontario where they don't have access to natural gas and they have, if not electricity, other fuels for heating, that would be included. It coul

May 22nd, 2018Committee meeting

Theresa McClenaghan

Natural Resources committee  Absolutely, Statistics Canada is and has been an extremely important venue for collecting that data. What I think the national energy data collection perspective would bring to the table would be the identification of missing data for Stats Canada to collect. More importantly, it

May 22nd, 2018Committee meeting

Theresa McClenaghan

Natural Resources committee  The Ontario study did refer to available Statistics Canada data, as well as data from the Ontario Energy Board's, for example, so they accessed that kind of data. The California study was interesting because, in addition to the usual statistical venues, they also conducted outrea

May 22nd, 2018Committee meeting

Theresa McClenaghan

Natural Resources committee  Due to the very fluid nature of policy-making right now around energy and climate change in particular, I would recommend that it start at a frequency of annual, and then after things have perhaps settled down in the policy world, it could stretch out to every couple of years or

May 22nd, 2018Committee meeting

Theresa McClenaghan