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Information & Ethics committee  Possibly. I haven't thought about the exact pieces of legislation that need to be amended. As I responded in answering an earlier question from Ms. Hepfner, I think we need to start from a principles base, augmented with a few provisions to ensure that general principles cannot

May 2nd, 2022Committee meeting

Daniel Therrien

May 2nd, 2022Committee meeting

Daniel Therrien

Information & Ethics committee  In fact, I think that's one of the lessons we can learn from how the technology has been used in recent years. We have to put a stop to self-regulation by companies, and those in the surveillance field deserve particular attention. Generally speaking, elected representatives need

May 2nd, 2022Committee meeting

Daniel Therrien

Information & Ethics committee  It's clear that we are greatly concerned about Palantir's practices, but as we haven't investigated the company, I don't feel comfortable commenting about it.

May 2nd, 2022Committee meeting

Daniel Therrien

Information & Ethics committee  As the authorities on protecting information, we believe that we will have a role to play in protecting personal data. However, facial recognition brings other rights into play, such as the right to equality in cases of discrimination against certain groups, and also democratic r

May 2nd, 2022Committee meeting

Daniel Therrien

Information & Ethics committee  The RCMP is saying that the Privacy Act does not explicitly require it to verify the legality of the practices of its private sector contractors. It is true that the Privacy Act does not explicitly say that. We are of the view that a correct interpretation of that law is that the

May 2nd, 2022Committee meeting

Daniel Therrien

Information & Ethics committee  The short answer is yes, we do work with the Competition Bureau. We have discussions with them fairly regularly, but both of us, the bureau and the OPC, are limited by our current laws in that we are not able to share, for instance, detailed information that we gather in the cont

May 2nd, 2022Committee meeting

Daniel Therrien

Information & Ethics committee  As far as the police are concerned, I think those two examples would be the most important ones. As for “crime”, I would qualify that and say “serious crime”. I'm not sure that facial recognition should be used for common theft, for instance, given the risks of the use of facial

May 2nd, 2022Committee meeting

Daniel Therrien

Information & Ethics committee  The short answer is yes. We've recommended that many times. Yes.

May 2nd, 2022Committee meeting

Daniel Therrien

Information & Ethics committee  No, I am not. We asked how many times they'd used it, and I believe it was in the tens of cases. As to the convictions, no, I do not know the number.

May 2nd, 2022Committee meeting

Daniel Therrien

Information & Ethics committee  I think that's speculative. The RCMP says, which I have no reason to doubt, that when they use the technology, there's human review. That tells me that there's a police officer who then undertakes an investigation and presents evidence through a Crown attorney under the normal ru

May 2nd, 2022Committee meeting

Daniel Therrien

Information & Ethics committee  We're not aware of other FRT systems that the RCMP is using. There are, of course, many FRT systems other than Clearview, but they do not all have the same level of accuracy, which is a concern. As far as the RCMP is concerned, we do not know that they are using a system other

May 2nd, 2022Committee meeting

Daniel Therrien

Information & Ethics committee  That's a good question. My starting point would be to say that we do have laws. Obviously, we have the charter and we have the common law, and there are some statutes like the RCMP Act that govern the situation. In the private sector, we have PIPEDA. To your point about flexib

May 2nd, 2022Committee meeting

Daniel Therrien

Information & Ethics committee  The RCMP has set up a system. It's the implementation of the details of the system—for instance, the training to be given to officers—that is taking more time to define than we had hoped. I would suggest that you ask the RCMP how long it's going to take. We have asked them ours

May 2nd, 2022Committee meeting

Daniel Therrien

May 2nd, 2022Committee meeting

Daniel Therrien