Veterans Affairs committee  Yes, I'm aware of that. I'm just saying that I have several friends who are case managers in different areas throughout Ontario, and they're absolutely jam-packed right now. They can't take on a case of transition, so—

Veterans Affairs committee  I would say that there's always a role, necessarily, for a case manager to play. But you have to remember also that our case managers currently are quite occupied, we'll say, with the caseloads they have, so unless we're willing to throw in some extra money to hire some more case

Veterans Affairs committee  Yes, it's about building that resiliency from the start for anything like that, because what it comes down to, and I've said this. In any of these programs this can't be seen as a handout to the military, because as a member who wears the uniform I'm not going to accept a handout

Veterans Affairs committee  It's important to note that currently for Veterans Affairs.... You asked whether they might be able to come into play with DND. I can say from my personal experience as a reservist that there's no way to go but up. When I first came home, there was no Veterans Affairs represent

Veterans Affairs committee  Thank you very much. Yes, I can understand your question quite well. Coming from a personal point, I was diagnosed with PTSD in 2013 due to injuries I sustained overseas. I have been in that position where I've been in a corporate job where they didn't quite understand what was