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Pay Equity committee  We believe quite strongly that there should be one process, one process for public employees and one for private sector employees as well. There shouldn't be two separate streams for implementing a human right at the federal level.

April 18th, 2016Committee meeting

Ian Fine

Pay Equity committee  I think that the answer would be a definite yes. Under the proactive model that we're advising be adopted you would not see that. There are no guarantees in life, of course, but we just can't imagine that there would be a scenario whereby a situation could evolve into years and y

April 18th, 2016Committee meeting

Ian Fine

Pay Equity committee  Unfortunately, I don't have an easy answer to your question. It's an important and good question. I'm just not sure. In pay equity cases there are a lot of experts involved. One of the first tasks in a pay equity exercise, whether it be under the complaints model or a proactive

April 18th, 2016Committee meeting

Ian Fine

Pay Equity committee  We've talked about timing, for one. It's a much shorter process. It doesn't involve the same costs to any of the parties. Also, it typically doesn't involve major retroactive payouts. I think it's a process that's much more palatable for everyone concerned.

April 18th, 2016Committee meeting

Ian Fine

Pay Equity committee  My colleague is pointing out that many of those stakeholders you're referring to would be provincially regulated, so not necessarily ones that we would have met with. I can't honestly say that we would have met with those specific groups. To be clear, it was our chief commissio

April 18th, 2016Committee meeting

Ian Fine

Pay Equity committee  Right, and that's a very good point. If I may, that's not to say that we do not do work with HR professionals, for example. We do a lot of it. Mr. Narducci's branch is responsible for designing webinars that we offer to our stakeholders groups. I'll let Mr. Narducci speak to

April 18th, 2016Committee meeting

Ian Fine

Pay Equity committee  I'm not sure of the answer to that question, but it's certainly something we're happy to get back to you on.

April 18th, 2016Committee meeting

Ian Fine

Pay Equity committee  There is no doubt that the employment equity complaint process must be improved to address the concerns. I'm not sure I understood your first question. Could you please repeat it?

April 18th, 2016Committee meeting

Ian Fine

Pay Equity committee  Since the process for responding to wage equity complaints is more complex, it takes a lot of time. We feel that the process must be changed. The process around employment equity is that proactive model, so we've had the benefit of a number of years now of experience in auditin

April 18th, 2016Committee meeting

Ian Fine

Pay Equity committee  We're always looking at improvements. As I said earlier, we've not experienced as much angst, as much concern with respect to any of the other grounds of discrimination under the Canadian Human Rights Act. As I said in my opening comments, we administer up to 2,000 complaints a

April 18th, 2016Committee meeting

Ian Fine

Pay Equity committee  It's an interesting model. I think much of what you just said makes sense, and I think all of the parties that you've said should be implicated in the process, working together to find a better way. I think that's what this is all about. We're all trying to work together. It's in

April 18th, 2016Committee meeting

Ian Fine

Pay Equity committee  I'm not sure. If you can answer that question, go ahead.

April 18th, 2016Committee meeting

Ian Fine

Pay Equity committee  I think we've all been talking about it.

April 18th, 2016Committee meeting

Ian Fine

Pay Equity committee  It's a proactive model.

April 18th, 2016Committee meeting

Ian Fine

Pay Equity committee  I think we're back to the proactive model and our advice would be that it be replaced. Section 11 of our legislation, which is the pay equity complaint section, would be replaced by a proactive regime in whatever context, whether under a separate piece of legislation, or given to

April 18th, 2016Committee meeting

Ian Fine