Environment committee  Oh, definitely. Indeed, they are.

Environment committee  Yes, it is. Our conservation programs are based on science. Once we can target the best thing to do for wetlands, then we go and raise the money. A lot of it comes from the private sector and either the landowners themselves or from industry.

Environment committee  Yes, it does. That's an affinity program. It's like the credit card. A financial company says, “We'd like to approach Ducks Unlimited supporters and conservation-minded people with a mortgage opportunity. We'll give a great rate.” For every mortgage that they sign up, we get a

Environment committee  Yes.

Environment committee  The first question was, do we have small and medium-sized enterprises involved? I wouldn't say in the voluntary offset. It's not a specific initiative, with small business saying they want to do this to offset. To your point about the social licence and being a responsible corpo

Environment committee  They might want to do that, but we wouldn't partner with them on that, because it isn't delivering a science-based, high-quality outcome.

Environment committee  Right. If they're going to be affiliated with us and our brand, it has to be out there.

Environment committee  I don't know, honestly. I didn't. Hold on a second. Not formally, no.

Environment committee  It shouldn't be a surprise to anybody that we conserve wetlands. We protect wetlands, so we are not fans of wetland drainage. Our mission is wetland conservation. We don't support wetland drainage. When it comes to protecting wetlands on the working landscape, it is very challen

Environment committee  It depends where you are. In some municipalities, yes, that is truly the case. If you went into the northern landscapes and all the crown and public lands, which are owned and managed by crown authorities, they're pretty well in existence there, and there may even be more because

Environment committee  Yes, in the breeding landscapes. That would be the Prairies and southern Ontario, where we have the greatest presence of industry and significant economic activity. We still see ongoing losses, yes, generally speaking.

Environment committee  Yes, they are.

Environment committee  That's been our approach working with governments, but realizing that to have effective control, the communities have to support it. If we get too far ahead with legislation and these prescriptions and things, we find that the regulators and the communities they're made up of don

Environment committee  What we work in is a political system. We're very practical about that. As we're advocating for wetland policies, we're pushing on this: if you must destroy wetlands and take them off the landscape, there has to be mitigation and offsetting.

Environment committee  The project I talked about is just southwest of Calgary, and it's about 6,000 acres in size—very large. It's not in the oil sands landscape.