Justice committee  Sure.

Justice committee  It's the law.

Justice committee  You're presuming, as a foundational premise, that there's a problem with the Criminal Code and the way it's enforced. That hasn't been established. I know that people are complaining—

Justice committee  Do I think it would be irresponsible for Facebook to eliminate—

Justice committee  Yes, I think that governments are prosecuting offences under sections 318 and 319 of the Criminal Code, for example. You need permission from the Attorney General to prosecute that offence. Obviously, that's something serious, and when there is a breach of the Criminal Code, I th

Justice committee  I think it's important to clarify it, because I'm not sure that we do all understand it.

Justice committee  Sure, communication spreads. That's the same for a speech that infringes the Criminal Code as well.

Justice committee  No, I didn't say I was insulted. I said that the starting point for the conversation needs to be paragraph 2(b) of the charter, because it protects the fundamental rights that the Supreme Court of Canada has said are the foundation of Canada's liberal democracy. It can't function

Justice committee  Sir, I'm not sure of that at all. This government's track record regarding paragraph 2(b) of the charter is not good. There was the Canada summer jobs fiasco in 2018, in which people were compelled to make—

Justice committee  I understand that people should be mindful of it, but as to whether or not this government takes paragraph 2(b) seriously, I'm not convinced of that at all, no.

Justice committee  The representative from Egale made an excellent point about the dangers of attempting to take down speech and to fine ISPs for content. That's a legitimate concern. People in Canada have a right not to be subjected to criminal hatred, so insofar as those concerns are based on the

Justice committee  I think that for me to agree with that, you would have to define what hatred is. How are you defining it? If you're defining it like some of these witnesses, then no, I don't think the government legitimately has an objective.

Justice committee  Is sexism hate? Has that been established? I don't know that it has been, sir. Is sexism arguing against a woman's legal right to have an abortion because somebody has a perspective that's different than that?

Justice committee  Please don't put words in my mouth. I'm not here to argue.

Justice committee  I'm giving you direct answers. I don't know that it has been established that sexism, which is not defined for the purposes of this committee, is hate. If you're telling me that it is, then I think what we need to establish is what you mean by sexism and establish parameters.