Fisheries committee  When you mention the lease of a quota, is it also the licence? I mean, these are separate—

Fisheries committee  All right. Duncan, you talked about enforcement officers. If I can summarize what you said, it was more to do with the lack of good feelings, I guess, between the fishermen and the enforcement officers, because the officers don't necessarily know the rules, or they don't unders

Fisheries committee  Perhaps you can submit that—

Fisheries committee  Can you submit that answer in writing to the committee, please?

Fisheries committee  Thanks very much, Madam Chair. I got 20 seconds extra, which I've now just wasted. Thank you very much to both of you for being here. We appreciate it. Duncan, you talked a little bit about the differences in the fishing incomes between Pacific fishermen and Atlantic fishermen.

Fisheries committee  I'd like to hear from both of you on that.

Fisheries committee  Sure.

Fisheries committee  Can you help me? I'm not normally a member of this committee and am just filling in today, but I'm obviously very interested. I understand the difference between owner-operators on the east coast versus the west coast, but can you talk a bit about active fishermen versus licence-