Public Accounts committee  We certainly did do analysis on the interaction between the CERB and other business supports, including the wage subsidy, as you mentioned. I don't have that at my disposal. It is my tax colleague who does that, but he'd certainly be happy to submit that to you.

Public Accounts committee  I can't speak to the subsidy, but I can certainly speak to the CERB. When we started this, of course the Department of Finance's interest is costing and funding, not surprisingly, but I would say we ran the gamut of analysis right from the get-go with our partners at ESDC and C

Public Accounts committee  That's a loaded question. Thank you. I am not aware of that kind of analysis specifically, and certainly that is nothing that I have personally touched over the last year while we were dealing with the CERB, so I am not really qualified, and I barely understand the scope of that

Public Accounts committee  My answer is the same, sir. With respect to the CERB, I can speak to the analysis we did for income supports to Canadians who needed them, but your bigger question, which is important, is something that I'm not really qualified to answer. However, I'm happy to take that away.

Public Accounts committee  Thanks. The data and the analysis that we were doing—and continue to do, obviously—as the program was unfolding involved going over the information that ESDC and CRA both shared with us. On the number of applicants and beneficiaries of the CERB, we would look at surveys done by,

Public Accounts committee  In my opinion, you don't just attribute one source as the only piece of information. You pool information from all over the place. There are a bunch of secondary sources, and altogether you get the broad strokes of a meaningful trend. To your point, it's not for me to say whether

Information & Ethics committee  I'm sorry, what $10-million approval?

Information & Ethics committee  Thank you. Mr. Angus is referring to annex 4, which is in the documents that we submitted to Parliament. Annex 4 lays out a funding decision, which says...a high-level announcement, $900 million, the minister of ESDC to return with a proposal, and it also has WE Charity, $12 mil

Information & Ethics committee  I think I need to be a little less sassy, but yes, it is here. Thanks for asking.

Information & Ethics committee  I am aware of it now, but those are details that are uniquely in the remit of ESDC. That has nothing to do with me.

Information & Ethics committee  I cannot speculate, nor remember. You'd have to ask ESDC.

Information & Ethics committee  Was that for me, sir?

Information & Ethics committee  What is the exact question? Pardon me.

Information & Ethics committee  Thanks for that. That may well be the case, sir. I think that question is probably directed at ESDC, who were the ones building the contribution agreement with WE Charity. That was not the Department of Finance. I would also state that in your earlier chronology, yet again, Min

Information & Ethics committee  Thank you. I can only answer that question with respect to my roles and responsibilities in finance. The contribution agreement is the department of ESDC. The Department of Finance has nothing to do with that, and was only involved insofar as the funding agreement and the autho