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Status of Women committee  I'm not overly familiar with the phrase “cherry-picking”, because English is my second language.

May 2nd, 2017Committee meeting

Norman Sabourin

Status of Women committee  Okay. I don't think that's a fair thing to say. The reason it's okay for the CJC to adopt a mandatory education policy is that it's judges telling judges that they shall attend the school. The reason it's okay for the CJC to tell judges that they will engage in 10 to 15 days a

May 2nd, 2017Committee meeting

Norman Sabourin

Status of Women committee  Well, I'll let parliamentarians decide what Canadians think is best. The judiciary is very responsive to public attitudes. The Canadian judiciary is very proud of the fact that it enjoys a very high degree of confidence from the public. I think part of the reason is that—

May 2nd, 2017Committee meeting

Norman Sabourin

Status of Women committee  That is the case.

May 2nd, 2017Committee meeting

Norman Sabourin

Status of Women committee  I think it's fair to say, and I've said it before, that there are gaps. The council recognized that there are gaps in judicial education. We could always do better. I would not want to use the words “problems” and “grave” and “consistent” and “we're in trouble”. I think that is a

May 2nd, 2017Committee meeting

Norman Sabourin

Status of Women committee  First of all, the mandatory education for newly appointed judges was just adopted as a policy by the CJC last month, so it's a recent requirement. The CJC has just decided to publish, as you know, the description, overview, duration, date of seminar, and the number of judges who

May 2nd, 2017Committee meeting

Norman Sabourin

Status of Women committee  We will know attendance for sure, because we will start monitoring it in order to publish what we've undertaken to publish as per our position paper tabled before this committee.

May 2nd, 2017Committee meeting

Norman Sabourin

Status of Women committee  For new judges. By the way, in case there's any doubt, other than a family emergency, really, I'm not aware of a single judge who did not attend every single day of the new judges training school. So I wouldn't make any inferences about people not attending and our having to lo

May 2nd, 2017Committee meeting

Norman Sabourin

Status of Women committee  That is a very good question. In terms of the first part you mentioned, a lot of the responsibility lies not only with individual judges, but with their chief justice. I cannot speak to what happened with Justice Camp when he was a provincial judge. I can't speak to these other

May 2nd, 2017Committee meeting

Norman Sabourin

Status of Women committee  The key concern that we have at the CJC is that it appears to be an attempt to do indirectly what you cannot do directly, which is to say, naming judges who were attending which course at what time in order to say, you made the following decision and we will attempt to characteri

May 2nd, 2017Committee meeting

Norman Sabourin

Status of Women committee  That's right, and from having listened to your work in the past, I think this committee has identified the importance of training at all levels. Ms. Ambrose has spelled out how important it is to train police officers, crown prosecutors, and the judiciary. From the CJC's perspe

May 2nd, 2017Committee meeting

Norman Sabourin

Status of Women committee  In terms of judicial conduct generally, the executive director has authority to initiate a review about a judge. Any time information comes to my attention, I can do that. More importantly, judges have ethical obligations to signal or to flag where they see ethical shortcomings i

May 2nd, 2017Committee meeting

Norman Sabourin

Status of Women committee  No, that's in regard to ongoing training for all judges.

May 2nd, 2017Committee meeting

Norman Sabourin

May 2nd, 2017Committee meeting

Norman Sabourin

Status of Women committee  As I said earlier, first of all I have to disagree respectfully that there's a consistent problem among the judiciary and their training on sexual assault matters. I cannot agree with that.

May 2nd, 2017Committee meeting

Norman Sabourin