Health committee  Can I comment because I want to make it very clear?

Health committee  Okay.

Health committee  I'm not here because of them, just so we're clear.

Health committee  I would say that we lobby for the interest of convenience store retailers.

Health committee  We lobby for every one of our members. I don't appreciate that we're being tailored to one product and one product only. Let's just be clear on something.

Health committee  We don't lobby for them. We lobby for ourselves because you have to understand our business. I don't think people have any understanding of what a convenience store is in this country, or what we do, or any of that.

Health committee  You are, because you're saying that the only reason I'm here today having a conversation about plain packaging is that I want to do it for the benefit of big tobacco. You need to understand something. It has nothing to gain from marijuana, or from cannabis, from any of that. It i

Health committee  Just let me finish. All I want to say is that I want to give you input on the experience we have. I personally have worked in a convenience store for over 30 years, selling tobacco. I've had experience with the big power walls, as they used to call them, with all the colours behi

Health committee  I think it's entirely up to this government to make that decision on where they are going to go. My thoughts are just based on the experience we have of selling another combustible product. We have worked with many government agencies over the years on how we can do a better job

Health committee  I agree as well. Anything you can do to help stop it from going to the illicit side, I think, is what everybody agrees with. That's the point.

Health committee  I don't think any of us are really experts when it comes to retailing cannabis in this country right now, or how it will all go down. I think one of the things that needs to be taken into account is what a package is going to look like for cannabis, and, let's be honest, how bi

Health committee  But you've failed miserably on the tobacco side. If you look at where the cost of tobacco is today compared with what the cost of illicit tobacco is, you have one way up here and you have one way down there. To go back on a question asked before, the people who have the most to

Health committee  If the federal government does what they intend to do and their goal is to move people over from an illicit product to a legal product when it comes to cannabis, if they really stick to their guns and do what they do and sell it for around the same price as people can buy it for

Health committee  I understand, but you're talking about packaging and you're talking about moving someone over to a legal product, and you just said, to the lowest price—

Health committee  Yes.