Natural Resources committee  It's important to keep in mind that energy storage systems aren't just about batteries. A lot is recycled during the production process. It's also necessary to look at the other types of technology, which have very different repercussions. Although there is always an impact, it c

Natural Resources committee  I would add that this is probably where most other jurisdictions are heading. It's not to discard the option of building transmission line infrastructure, but it's to look at it from a big picture perspective and to see the coming trend of decentralized generation.

Natural Resources committee  The only thing is that, when we talk about value of storage, we always talk about cost. When we talk about value, it adds value much more than just the energy. That's where oftentimes we miss out here. All these costs associated with flexibility and all the other ancillary servic

Natural Resources committee  I'll take that one, Mr. Marcoux. The issue of having surplus is more of an accounting exercise at the end of the year, seeing that we had too much so we sold so much outside, but there are moments in the year when each of those jurisdictions that you mentioned are in need of pow

Natural Resources committee  The association is constantly looking at what's happening in other jurisdictions to better educate and be able to look into a crystal ball with more clarity. We do have good interties with Energy Storage Association, ESA, out of the United States, and others as well, for that mat

Natural Resources committee  Energy Storage Canada is an independent association. It was created by its members that are all part of the energy storage industry. In that sense, we are not officially linked with the smart grid cities, the Smart Cities Association, but energy storage intrinsically is definitel

Natural Resources committee  There are some studies about that available with some empirical data gathered in the States. We could share that with you. It is theoretically possible for those battery cars, or vehicles, to be used to store energy and then release that energy when it's needed. The question is

Natural Resources committee  Okay.

Natural Resources committee  In the bulk storage, the larger scale, compressed air falls in that category. Some examples are existing mines, where the cavities underground are injected with air when there is a surplus of power in the system. When there is increased demand, then that pressure is released thro

Natural Resources committee  I would be pleased to share a lot of those details. We do have the capacity to store a very large amount of power over a long period of time. As an example, the traditional pumped storage has been here for a long time. We have some in Niagara. We have some in the United States. T

Natural Resources committee  From a pure energy standpoint, there's always a certain round-trip efficiency, which varies depending on the technology. We would be running at around 80%. To the question of whether the cost of pumping is worth the cost of generating, the answer is no, if we think only in kilow

Natural Resources committee  In terms of major infrastructure—because I think it's where you're heading here—let me give you an example. In Ontario, where there is a lot of curtailment, there would be a use to having a bulk storage element, let's say a pump storage or air storage of a few hundred megawatts.

Natural Resources committee  Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you for allowing me to speak from a distance. My name is François Vitez. I will be speaking today on behalf of Energy Storage Canada. I'm the chair of the federal initiatives committee at the association. Energy Storage Canada is an association that