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Foreign Affairs committee  I would say that one problem the U.K. has had with the transfer of parts and components to the United States to be incorporated into weapons systems for onward transfer is that we then lose control of what is done with those arms or armed systems once they're transferred to that

November 2nd, 2017Committee meeting

Martin Butcher

Foreign Affairs committee  Yes, absolutely. The treaties are binding on the countries as state parties to them, absolutely.

November 2nd, 2017Committee meeting

Martin Butcher

Foreign Affairs committee  I think it's extremely important. Oxfam worked hard to achieve the adoption of the Arms Trade Treaty because we thought it was necessary. There was a gap in international regulation. There are many other kinds of regulations. The Arms Trade Treaty works with and alongside those.

November 2nd, 2017Committee meeting

Martin Butcher

Foreign Affairs committee  That's a very good point. There are certainly major exporters outside the treaty; Russia and China would be two. The United States is sort of half in and half out, at the moment, although its domestic legislation is fully compliant with the treaty. We at Oxfam view this as a lon

November 2nd, 2017Committee meeting

Martin Butcher

Foreign Affairs committee  Yes. In general, for most of its existence it has met in a fairly short number of months in the year to look at or review the government's report on the arms that it has exported over the previous year and its policy for doing so. It has held maybe three hearings each year—one fo

November 2nd, 2017Committee meeting

Martin Butcher

Foreign Affairs committee  That is correct. The ATT stipulates there must be a procedure for all exports, but it doesn't say what that procedure has to be. As long as you follow the framework of the treaty, you're free to come to your own arrangements as long as they comply with that framework. The EU is

November 2nd, 2017Committee meeting

Martin Butcher

Foreign Affairs committee  In the Congo specifically, no. Globally about 500,000 people a year lose their lives as a result of irresponsibly or illegally traded arms in conflict and armed violence. That fluctuates somewhat, but it's roughly that level.

November 2nd, 2017Committee meeting

Martin Butcher

Foreign Affairs committee  The vast majority would be civilians.

November 2nd, 2017Committee meeting

Martin Butcher

Foreign Affairs committee  Oxfam certainly believes that it would be a very good thing for Canada to accede to the ATT. The universalization of the treaty is extremely important. We also believe that the strong and robust implementation of the treaty at the national level is extremely important. The full

November 2nd, 2017Committee meeting

Martin Butcher

Foreign Affairs committee  Absolutely. Clearly, in Africa in particular, Oxfam is extremely active. The illicit arms flows are extremely damaging and fuel conflicts across the continent. It's estimated that something like 95% of small arms and light weapons in Africa come from outside the continent, most w

November 2nd, 2017Committee meeting

Martin Butcher

Foreign Affairs committee  I think it would be a very good idea to try a third time. I'm sure that in whatever international fora exist for the discussion of ideas between British and Canadian parliamentarians, parliamentarians on the arms export control committees would be only too happy to discuss with y

November 2nd, 2017Committee meeting

Martin Butcher

Foreign Affairs committee  Certainly. The legislation that regulates the export of arms from the U.K. is the 2004 Export Control Act. Within that, we also have the consolidated criteria by which the EU common position on arms exports is brought into British law. That's done within a provision of the 2004 a

November 2nd, 2017Committee meeting

Martin Butcher

Foreign Affairs committee  Absolutely. For about 20 years now, we've had the Committees on Arms Export Controls, which bring together the defence, foreign affairs, international development, and international trade committees. They each supply a quarter of the MPs on the committees. In a variety of differe

November 2nd, 2017Committee meeting

Martin Butcher

Foreign Affairs committee  Good afternoon. Thank you very much for the invitation. It's an honour. The protection of civilians, the achievement of sustainable socio-economic development, and the reduction of humanitarian harm in conflict all necessitate preventing irresponsible arms transfers. This is wh

November 2nd, 2017Committee meeting

Martin Butcher