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May 31st, 2021Committee meeting

John Moffet

Environment committee  Over the content of the...?

May 31st, 2021Committee meeting

John Moffet

Environment committee  That's correct—after completing all of the consultation obligations in the act associated with the completion of the plan, which, as we'll get to when we get to the rest of the act, includes consulting other ministers, provinces, indigenous peoples, the advisory body, etc.

May 31st, 2021Committee meeting

John Moffet

Environment committee  I think it's a slightly different meaning. Each target in the bill as currently written has to have its own plan. This amendment refers to an objective, which would be contained within a plan. I think the expectation would be that the 2030 plan would include measures to achieve t

May 31st, 2021Committee meeting

John Moffet

Environment committee  Just to be clear, that's not in the legal sense used in the act as a target. It has its own independent plan. There would be a number that would need to be articulated. That number would be public, and government would be held accountable for it. There would be measures to achi

May 31st, 2021Committee meeting

John Moffet

Environment committee  I'm trying to distinguish what we might commonly refer to as target and the way in which “target” is used in this act, and the specific difference is that in this act each target has to have a stand-alone plan. In this case, there would be no stand-alone separate plan associated

May 31st, 2021Committee meeting

John Moffet

Environment committee  I'm going to apologize to the committee. I had trouble getting on. I'm just bringing the document up. I need to have a look at the provision. I apologize. I'm not quite ready to answer the question.

May 31st, 2021Committee meeting

John Moffet

Environment committee  I can't speak for the intention of the person who wrote the amendment. I think it should have an “s” on it. That's the way the term has been used in the rest of the bill, so it would be consistent. I think there should be consistency throughout the bill. Just to be clear, the t

May 31st, 2021Committee meeting

John Moffet

Environment committee  I think they'd be treated differently. “Target” is already used in the act. As you know, there is a requirement for targets for every five years. “Objective” is a different term, but I think it would nonetheless require a numerical outcome. It would require, in the context of t

May 31st, 2021Committee meeting

John Moffet

Environment committee  No. I apologize if I sound like I am splitting hairs. The short answer is that the act makes a fairly significant distinction between targets and plans. This particular amendment has to do with establishing a 2025 plan, whereas the subsequent NDP amendment that you referred to

May 26th, 2021Committee meeting

John Moffet

Environment committee  If NDP-2 is passed, it would be more than a promise. It would be a legal obligation.

May 26th, 2021Committee meeting

John Moffet

Environment committee  No, you're correct. At the moment it is simply described as a interim greenhouse gas emission objective.

May 26th, 2021Committee meeting

John Moffet

Environment committee  That's a good question. I'm not sure how the term “ensure” would be interpreted. As members are aware, there's an obligation in the act on the Minister of Environment and Climate Change to consult with other ministers in order to ensure a whole-of-government approach. Whether

May 26th, 2021Committee meeting

John Moffet

Environment committee  I'm not personally, no, but I can't assure this committee that I've done a thorough review of federal legislation.

May 26th, 2021Committee meeting

John Moffet

Environment committee  It's correct that we have obligations under the UNFCCC and under the Canadian Environmental Protection Act that result in various reports. There are no such regular requirements for plans as contemplated by this provision or the bill as a whole, however.

May 26th, 2021Committee meeting

John Moffet