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Agriculture committee  I would agree with that. That seems to be very consistent with the evidence we have. It does not tend to be trespassers or unwanted visitors who bring pathogens onto farms: It's often people who don't follow the rules. Mr. Steinley spoke about protocols on dairy farms. I'll note

October 5th, 2023Committee meeting

Camille Labchuk

Agriculture committee  Just to be clear, we don't trespass. We don't support trespassing, but it's very difficult for anyone to see what's going on to make that report in the first place. It tends to happen only when there's an undercover whistle-blower who comes forward. I'll say, just for example, t

October 5th, 2023Committee meeting

Camille Labchuk

Agriculture committee  I do have concerns in that situation. In Ontario and in Alberta we have these ag-gag laws that make it illegal to go undercover to work on a farm. Those laws say that you can't use a false pretense to get a position on a farm, so someone who applies for a job and doesn't disclose

October 5th, 2023Committee meeting

Camille Labchuk

Agriculture committee  Yes, I would say it does seem redundant to me, and I would note that these penalties seem excessively high.

October 5th, 2023Committee meeting

Camille Labchuk

Agriculture committee  Thank you for your question. Yes, I do think that biosecurity is critically important, and I will say that as somebody who cares deeply about animals in an organization that works to enhance their protection, it's devastating to us when we learn about Avian influenza wiping out

October 5th, 2023Committee meeting

Camille Labchuk

Agriculture committee  Unfortunately, it's exceedingly difficult right now for anyone to report concerns about farms, and there are a couple of reasons. The first is that farms are private property, as we've repeatedly heard. Farms are not areas that the public would typically have access to, so you d

October 5th, 2023Committee meeting

Camille Labchuk

Agriculture committee  Thank you for the question. There has been a lot of discussion about a hog farm in Quebec where it was alleged that trespassers brought in disease. There actually is no evidence of this. It was not a point in the Crown's case at trial. The judge rejected testimony from the farm

October 5th, 2023Committee meeting

Camille Labchuk

Agriculture committee  Look, as I've said, we don't advocate on-farm trespass. I'm here today because what this bill would do is shut off undercover videos from investigations that are employment-based, where people lawfully work on the farm and expose what they see to the world. Oftentimes, unfortunat

October 5th, 2023Committee meeting

Camille Labchuk

Agriculture committee  Yes. Thank you for your question. One thing that we've done through analyzing decades of CFIA data is take a close look at the things that result in biosecurity threats and diseases, and oftentimes it tends to be poor practices on farms or poor adherence to practices that are vo

October 5th, 2023Committee meeting

Camille Labchuk

Agriculture committee  I grew up in rural Prince Edward Island, so I've been on plenty of farms.

October 5th, 2023Committee meeting

Camille Labchuk

Agriculture committee  No, I didn't grow up on a farm.

October 5th, 2023Committee meeting

Camille Labchuk

Agriculture committee  I've been around plenty of farmed animals.

October 5th, 2023Committee meeting

Camille Labchuk

Agriculture committee  Do you mean have I owned farmed animals—

October 5th, 2023Committee meeting

Camille Labchuk

Agriculture committee  —or have I actually farmed them? No. As I've mentioned, I'm a lawyer, not a farmer.

October 5th, 2023Committee meeting

Camille Labchuk

Agriculture committee  The mission of Animal Justice.... I want to be really clear about what I'm here to say to you today. We exist to lead the legal fight for animals. We work to improve the legal protections for animals. As I've mentioned—and I appreciate what you're saying about food safety—unfor

October 5th, 2023Committee meeting

Camille Labchuk