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Canada-China Relations committee  Thank you, Ms. Normandin. Minister Blair has partially responded to our report and to the opposition motion in the House of Commons. He produced a document of some 20 pages, which has been distributed to all members of the House. It shows what the government is doing, what it i

May 31st, 2021Committee meeting

David McGuinty

Canada-China Relations committee  That is exactly NSICOP's approach. We have discussed this issue at length and we believe that the recommendations that have been made, including the one about mandatory briefings for members of Parliament and senators, as I mentioned earlier, should be carried forward from one

May 31st, 2021Committee meeting

David McGuinty

Canada-China Relations committee  Mr. Harris, that's an excellent question and it's something the committee is really seized with. I don't want to be diplomatic. I want to be forthright. It's a huge amount of work to come to ground in a non-partisan way with these recommendations. We deliberate long and hard. W

May 31st, 2021Committee meeting

David McGuinty

Canada-China Relations committee  I think the committee would say that it's encouraging that CSIS and its director are reaching out to engage more openly—giving keynote speeches, explaining the landscape, explaining the risks, and the magnitude of some of these threats and the magnitude of the opportunity to get

May 31st, 2021Committee meeting

David McGuinty

Canada-China Relations committee  My understanding—and we've documented this in the report—is that CSIS regularly meets with university administrators to walk them through some of the risks. I would say that there's work to be done in this area. I think, as I said earlier, that with the decision by the Province o

May 31st, 2021Committee meeting

David McGuinty

Canada-China Relations committee  I would say, Ms. Yip, that the committee concluded that between 2018 and 2020 this was the single greatest difference in the survey, in the compendium of threats that we produced for Canadians. This new process we started was the only publicly produced, publicly available overvie

May 31st, 2021Committee meeting

David McGuinty

Canada-China Relations committee  It is, and the government on February 3, I think it was—in February 2021—listed 13 new groups as terrorist entities and reviewed seven others. I know, through that process, that four groups—the Atomwaffen Division, The Base, the Proud Boys and the Russian Imperial Movement—have b

May 31st, 2021Committee meeting

David McGuinty

Canada-China Relations committee  That's an excellent question, Ms. Stubbs. Thank you for that. In the report in 2019 we lay out each of those really core areas—media influence, academic circles influence, political campaigns and politics influence. We've tried to break it down by sector, almost as you've enumer

May 31st, 2021Committee meeting

David McGuinty

Canada-China Relations committee  On the first question, of speaking for the government, I'm really not in a position to do so, except to reference Minister Blair's 18-page document sent out to all MPs in December.

May 31st, 2021Committee meeting

David McGuinty

Canada-China Relations committee  Mr. Chair, could I ask my director of operations and research to take a stab at that question? I don't want to get this wrong. That's a very pointed question about a single document.

May 31st, 2021Committee meeting

David McGuinty

Canada-China Relations committee  That's an omission I cannot address for you, Mr. Harris. I could certainly find out and get back to you. I think the report, though, does talk about the resurgence of groups, how many of those are considered to be national security threats, and to what extent some of these group

May 31st, 2021Committee meeting

David McGuinty

Canada-China Relations committee  I think it would be. I'm not so certain that it's a lack of thoroughness. We did tackle 29,000 pages of documents, so we did the best we could, but we certainly will come back to you. I will check with my team.

May 31st, 2021Committee meeting

David McGuinty

Canada-China Relations committee  First, the NSICOP has not studied the issue of Huawei and the use of that technology. Second, the comprehensive study done by the U.K. is quite extraordinary. It's something that hasn't been done in Canada for decades. How does it all tie together and get managed? Is it effecti

May 31st, 2021Committee meeting

David McGuinty

Canada-China Relations committee  It might be worthwhile, but again, it's not a topic that has been discussed at the NSICOP. We are very disciplined in that regard, and our reports only deal with topics that the NSICOP has addressed. Having said that, thank you for these excellent suggestions.

May 31st, 2021Committee meeting

David McGuinty

Canada-China Relations committee  Time being of the essence, Mr. Chair, I would recommend that members take a look at paragraphs 31 and forward in our 2020 annual report. We clearly lay out the rise of IMVE, which is ideologically motivated violent extremism movement. It is spreading quickly. Canada has a very la

May 31st, 2021Committee meeting

David McGuinty