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Canada-China Relations committee  I don't remember that. What I do remember is that the RCMP would work with the Chinese on what they regarded as legitimate serious crime, and they would be partners in trying to solve that crime, but at the same time, the Canadian government would try to prohibit inappropriate pr

November 24th, 2020Committee meeting

John McCallum

Canada-China Relations committee  It's an imperfect process. I'm sure some of those people did get through, but we do our best to stop it when we know about it. The inspection of visa applications is one approach. Perhaps there are others as well.

November 24th, 2020Committee meeting

John McCallum

Canada-China Relations committee  The information from various agencies goes into decisions on visas. It's not just the embassies.

November 24th, 2020Committee meeting

John McCallum

Canada-China Relations committee  We're talking about official visas, and I think that's a pretty broad category. These are for people working not just for the government directly but also possibly for various agencies of the government. There would be large numbers of such visas. Everything is large in China, bu

November 24th, 2020Committee meeting

John McCallum

Canada-China Relations committee  We certainly knew that was an issue, and I remember speaking to heads of various universities in Canada and asking them if they thought it was a big problem. As I recall, most of them, at the time, did not think it was a huge problem. They were aware of it. They thought it was po

November 24th, 2020Committee meeting

John McCallum

Canada-China Relations committee  I believe that's what I was referring to earlier, when they go and make threats to Chinese people about family back home and things of that kind. Is that right?

November 24th, 2020Committee meeting

John McCallum

Canada-China Relations committee  The RCMP would certainly not be involved in putting pressure on illegally getting people to go back to China or making threats against them. On the other hand, Canada does not want to be a haven for criminals, so if there were cases.... We don't have an extradition treaty, but th

November 24th, 2020Committee meeting

John McCallum

Canada-China Relations committee  I agree with what Robert Wright said. While it doesn't change the fact that I agree with his comments, I would point to something other people have suggested—instead of going it alone, Canada should work with countries like the United States to perhaps get better outcomes. I thin

November 24th, 2020Committee meeting

John McCallum

Canada-China Relations committee  I was not aware of that. I'm not sure I understood your question. Are you saying the Chinese government had agencies in Canada to recruit Canadians to go to China?

November 24th, 2020Committee meeting

John McCallum

Canada-China Relations committee  I don't know. Usually, it's the opposite. We are the ones recruiting people in China.

November 24th, 2020Committee meeting

John McCallum

Canada-China Relations committee  My apologies. I don't have any information on that.

November 24th, 2020Committee meeting

John McCallum

Canada-China Relations committee  I'm being told that I don't have any time left, but I do not recall that, no.

November 24th, 2020Committee meeting

John McCallum

Canada-China Relations committee  The Canadian government—and I can only speak for the current government, the Liberal government—has been extremely forceful in opposing the death penalty and I, as ambassador, as well. I personally can't stand the death penalty, and the government agrees, so it is an extremely hi

November 24th, 2020Committee meeting

John McCallum

November 24th, 2020Committee meeting

John McCallum

Canada-China Relations committee  I honestly don't remember. I think there were certain cases where CSIS or the RCMP would simply say no, and we wouldn't have a choice. There might have been others where there was a recommendation, and on occasion we might have disagreed with them. I don't remember.

November 24th, 2020Committee meeting

John McCallum