Information & Ethics committee  Yes. I would add that I am not a lawyer, but one thing I have observed from my research globally is that the spyware industry has a very strong appetite to sell to local law enforcement, where the abuses tend to be more problematic. Of course, they want to do this because it open

Information & Ethics committee  Yes, I do.

Information & Ethics committee  Like I said, I think that we need to have, from senior officials, from the Prime Minister, from the Minister of Public Safety and from the Minister of Foreign Affairs, clear, forceful statements that this industry that we're touching on in this committee is a threat to human righ

Information & Ethics committee  Which we have not done, unfortunately, in contrast to the United States.

Information & Ethics committee  That's correct.

Information & Ethics committee  Sure. As I said before, some of the remarks we heard in testimony from the RCMP were reassuring in terms of numbers and judicial authorization. I also heard, however, those numbers change in the course of a day. I heard that the Privacy Commissioner was not apprised of what's goi

Information & Ethics committee  We definitely have a problem of trust with public institutions, and we're not alone in that respect. Globally speaking, there's a decline around trust in public institutions, so we're not alone. If we want to set a good example for the rest of the world and strive to be the best

Information & Ethics committee  Well, if I understand your question correctly, you're implying that there is disinformation about some of the concerns that are being raised with respect to the risks and threats of this particular industry, which our agencies are actually contributing to financially. I think you

Information & Ethics committee  Yes. I'm in favour of as many legitimate parties as possible that are appropriate to make sure that we have proper accountability relative to the great leap forward in technological capabilities that law enforcement and security agencies have at their disposal today.

Information & Ethics committee  I think that we need to have some kind of embedded presence of the Office of the Privacy Commissioner. I was frankly very disappointed to hear that the Office of the Privacy Commissioner was not informed about these investigative techniques prior to the recent revelations, so we

Information & Ethics committee  I think overall it's reassuring that we heard testimony from the RCMP yesterday and from the minister that the instances of the use of this type of technology were undertaken with judicial authorization. However, as I said before, I think just because we hear from the RCMP that t

Information & Ethics committee  No, I don't find it acceptable at all, Mr. Chairman. I think that I heard something slightly different from the testimony. It sounded to me like one of the RCMP officers testified that they were using this type of technology much further back than 2017, which really is no surpris

Information & Ethics committee  Yes, 100%. It's the least that could be done, in my view.

Information & Ethics committee  This is a very serious concern, because there is a very well-documented revolving door, with people who work for intelligence services then going off and making money, some of them very honourably, unfortunately, and some of them not. I think it's shameful that a former prime min

Information & Ethics committee  Yes, 100%, it was in my testimony as a specific recommendation. We desperately need guidance to Canadian businesses, clear ground rules on to whom they can sell their technology so that we don't end up having Canadian firms supplying surveillance technology like they have to regi