Industry committee  Yes, but if you look at the U.K., they are wholesale moaning about the quality of their infrastructure and lack of fibre coverage across what is a very small geography. I know. I originated from there. Quite frankly, the Canadian networks are far superior in coverage and quality.

Industry committee  I think we have a [Inaudible—Editor] problem as well.

Industry committee  First of all, the government isn't spending billions on spectrum. It's charging the carriers billions for spectrum, for a national asset.

Industry committee  Per user, it's—

Industry committee  I don't have the number to hand. I can get that for you.

Industry committee  In fairness, I actually said “two threats don't make a pattern” because I was told we were—

Industry committee  Sorry, I thought I had time to answer your question. Would you like me to answer the question?

Industry committee  We couldn't agree more with you. It seems crazy that you rake in billions—and in your case, $20 billion to $24 billion—in spectrum charges, and then you hand out $170 million a year for 10 years, $1 billion over 10 years. It's the wrong way to drive the solution to the problem.

Industry committee  Telus would agree with that position. We think service providers should be encouraged to build facilities. To rely on an another party's network and resell it at a price lower than cost is not sustainable. It doesn't drive value for Canadians. It doesn't drive better network infr

Industry committee  I don't have that answer off the top of my head.

Industry committee  Are you talking about a fixed network or a mobile network?

Industry committee  Our definition is based literally on population, so we would consider small or rural as being anywhere between 40 to 5,000 people. We would say that on our fixed network we have voice coverage available to the high 90s, as a percentage of the population. In terms of data, we'd sa

Industry committee  I can't speak for other companies. It's certainly accurate for us.

Industry committee  Are you still on me? Sorry, I missed your question.

Industry committee  I would say that if they're having problems, then we will deal with them, but if they're within the plan that they signed up for, they wouldn't be facing overage charges.