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Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  By foreign governments? Really, what is the United Nations there for? On what planet do we live? I'm starting to give up on what to say and to think on this. This is ridiculous. It's been going on since 2017. My research report on the camps came out in 2018. In 2019, there wer

July 20th, 2020Committee meeting

Adrian Zenz

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  I believe the evidence we have points to the fact that if a family is in violation of birth control policies, the punishment is often levied on the husbands. A lot of those who are targeted for internment are the males. I believe one reason is to increase control over Uighur soci

July 20th, 2020Committee meeting

Adrian Zenz

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  The scope is.... In most instances, you have one parent taken away and one parent still at home, although they're put in full-time labour. One very problematic scenario is where the husbands are in camps or in faraway labour placements, and the women are in factories, local satel

July 20th, 2020Committee meeting

Adrian Zenz

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  The argument I make in my research is that the Uighur population figures of most recent dates are probably accurate. They have been catching up. In some years, they've added quite a few to the Uighur population. The Uighur population growth was one of the highest in China. A lo

July 20th, 2020Committee meeting

Adrian Zenz

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  I think the forced labour prevention act, which I consider very highly, is a very effective piece of proposed legislation. First, it creates the rebuttable presumption that all goods manufactured in Xinjiang are made through forced labour. That's appropriate, not because all good

July 20th, 2020Committee meeting

Adrian Zenz

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  I think the first possibility is in public awareness. If governments issue supply chain warnings, as was done by the United Kingdom and the United States when both governments issued specific supply chain warnings to their companies or to companies in general, that has a big impa

July 20th, 2020Committee meeting

Adrian Zenz

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  To an extent, yes. There has been a campaign. China is concerned about its image, perhaps even more so among belt-and-road countries. China, I think, is now looking even more to secure its status and image in belt-and-road countries. It is especially careful not to alienate Musli

July 20th, 2020Committee meeting

Adrian Zenz

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  On the United States imposing sanctions...? I'm not particularly aware of this.

July 20th, 2020Committee meeting

Adrian Zenz

July 20th, 2020Committee meeting

Adrian Zenz

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  Hundreds of thousands of Uighurs have been and are being sentenced to long-term prison terms to get them out of the way, especially culturally, and academics, musicians, artists, educators and translators would be among those. There's a long-term plan to shift people into prison

July 20th, 2020Committee meeting

Adrian Zenz

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  I will concisely start. The new information we have is, as you mentioned, that China shows definitely that these camps exist and are run like prisons, and they're not just benign vocational training. Second, we have more data from the ground as to the percentage. In some areas

July 20th, 2020Committee meeting

Adrian Zenz

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  In my opinion, it meets the definition of genocide specifically on preventing births, and partially and to an extent on some of the other ones such as mental harm and parent-child separation. The intention is to break and assimilate the Uighurs. In this sense, I do not believe th

July 20th, 2020Committee meeting

Adrian Zenz

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  That depends on your definition of “worse”. It is my opinion that China's plan is to break and assimilate the Uighurs. In this way, I believe it is distinct from the Nazi plan to obliterate and eradicate the Jews. However, Beijing's plan to subjugate and assimilate the Uighurs d

July 20th, 2020Committee meeting

Adrian Zenz

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  I would like to see both. I think individual nations have a responsibility. Sometimes there's a legal precedent to make a determination of the nature of the atrocity. For example, I'm aware that the United States State Department is able to do that, but hasn't done so, which is a

July 20th, 2020Committee meeting

Adrian Zenz

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  Western companies do sell products. Some like Heinz produce tomato ketchup and Volkswagen produces cars. The most direct implication in the police state is through technology, which involves Chinese companies and Chinese technology, but I think western implications are much more

July 20th, 2020Committee meeting

Adrian Zenz