Information & Ethics committee  Mr. Cowan gave help to children in Kenya. That's exactly what he did. That school continues to operate. With all those schools, thousands of children have graduated. We are deeply grateful to him. We're looking through records from 15 years ago to find out what happened. You ar

Information & Ethics committee  We've now answered this question from three different people.

Information & Ethics committee  Margaret Trudeau, for example, was booked through a speaking bureau. If you go on that same speaking bureau website you'll see—

Information & Ethics committee  To answer your question, other non-profits booked Madam Trudeau. Banks book her. Dozens of groups book her every year. They also receive federal funding. They work with the government. If that's inappropriate in any manner we trust the government should change the rules and not a

Information & Ethics committee  That is correct.

Information & Ethics committee  Again, allow me to point out the obvious: many non-profits book.... Madam Chair, you can see them online on the speaking bureau website. Banks book her to come to events. She's one of Canada's most famous mental health speakers. I respect the question, and frankly I wish we never

Information & Ethics committee  I assumed the government process would work properly.

Information & Ethics committee  We were very open and very transparent. It is not...appropriate to book someone through a speaking bureau website to come to an event. We didn't do it for the sake of seeking government grants. We did a decade with her because she was a mental health advocate. She raised millions

Information & Ethics committee  Mr. Angus, this is the one thing that we do agree with you on, and fully. It should never have happened.

Information & Ethics committee  It was 15 years ago. People are looking at the records. I don't know the answer to that question. We've [Technical difficulty—Editor] our standing committee to find the answer, and we should have that answer, and he is owed that answer. We are looking into that—

Information & Ethics committee  We understand that two cases have been identified in that same village at that same time, which was about 15 years ago. We want to research it. We want to get the bottom of it. It shouldn't have happened. We apologize for those two cases. We're going to continue to look in case t

Information & Ethics committee  It would have been in Kenya. It would have been a member of the Kenya team, theoretically. The thought that comes to mind, potentially, is that—and again, I'm not going to speculate about Mr. Cowan, but generally—we have funding to build schools, but funding also comes in to prov

Information & Ethics committee  I agree with you. It should never have happened. We made a mistake. A mistake was made in the organization involving that man's plaque. One of those two plaques should not have been taken down. You're absolutely right. That's why I called him and I apologized. We publicly apolog

Information & Ethics committee  And thousands of staff over time were pleased. Many of them loved their experience with the organization. Specifically on The Fifth Estate, they had one example of an individual they said was confused on whether they had funded the entirety of a water project. It's subsequently

Information & Ethics committee  Yes.