Information & Ethics committee  With respect, you're misrepresenting us. We said there was no profit that was going to be kept—

Information & Ethics committee  We don't hide the fact that to run a program it costs administration. Of course it does.

Information & Ethics committee  Your statement is not correct. What we said was that every program has administration, because it requires administration to deliver it. That administration was solely to deliver the program. It's a reasonable—

Information & Ethics committee  Was the question, did the federal government contact us to deliver the program? Yes, it contacted us.

Information & Ethics committee  Originally, the government asked us to deliver it to 20,000 students. We told the government it would cost $50 million. Over time, it increased the number, so exponentially, it grew to $543 million and 100,000 students, but it contacted us originally for 20,000. Does that answe

Information & Ethics committee  The Clerk of the Privy Council would be best able to speak to that and he said, yes, they did. We trust him and wouldn't have.... All we know is that we answered every question asked of us.

Information & Ethics committee  Of course, multiple individuals at ESDC asked questions during the vetting process.

Information & Ethics committee  It's important to provide context to this. In 2017, Rachel Wernick, from ESDC, came to visit our offices. In 2018, they gave us an $800,000 grant to test—

Information & Ethics committee  I would be happy to answer your question, but I think it's important, to your previous question, to understand that this didn't come out of the blue. In 2017—

Information & Ethics committee  They asked us questions—

Information & Ethics committee  I understand. My apologies. We gave the financial documents, including our audits, and the various documents you'd imagine WE Charity would offer to provide.

Information & Ethics committee  We were not aware of that, but would defer to the civil service if that's what they did.

Information & Ethics committee  Yes.

Information & Ethics committee  For example, the previous member asked us this, and I repeat the same example. We ran one of the largest service programs in the province, engaging 400 schools—

Information & Ethics committee  Yes, it was fully bilingual. The office [Technical difficulty—Editor]—