Finance committee  Mr. Chair, thank you. We were working diligently through that period, and ESDC was aware that we were working diligently through that period. ESDC suggested that this date, the date you mentioned, to be very specific about “that date”—

Finance committee  We'd have to go back to our records, sir, but we were all working in coordination throughout that entire period, sir.

Finance committee  I'll have to check my records, sir.

Finance committee  Here's the good news, sir. We were very clear, and it was also in the contract, if I'm not mistaken, that we had tens of millions of dollars of insurance, which we added as [Inaudible—Editor] to the foundation to ensure that this whole initiative was protected. Of course, in the

Finance committee  Sir, we didn't have a specific conversation about the amount of assets, but ESDC was clear that this was with the WE Charity Foundation specifically to help limit liability.

Finance committee  Sir, can you clarify the teachers' incentive? We are unclear about your statement.

Finance committee  We're very glad you asked that question, because that's another misconception.

Finance committee  Absolutely, sir. The conversation with ESDC was about liability. ESDC was asking us to take on the liability. That was the concern with ESDC and the Government of Canada, that the liability for the first 40,000 young people would rest solely with WE Charity. Under those circumsta

Finance committee  Sir, there was one payment, and we disclosed this, prior to Mr. Trudeau being in public life, to Sophie Trudeau, who came to speak at one of our WE Days in Montreal, I believe. The payments range, from our understanding, between $1,400 and $1,500. Let's go with $1,500, just to be

Finance committee  Yes, sir. The contract is, of course, with WE Day. It's the easiest way to make the contract, but the purpose of their compensation is for them to come and help us with the auxiliary events, because that's less exciting, and lots of days. That's the understanding that we had wi

Finance committee  Yes, and we also started when we were kids. Craig was 12. I was 17. It's kind of like building a house. You have a small little house and you add a wing, then you add a skylight and then you add a little makeshift swimming pool for your kids. Yes, we recognize that we do have a

Finance committee  That's physically done with ESDC and the civil service at ESDC, sir.

Finance committee  No, sir.

Finance committee  Yes.

Finance committee  We had many conversations with ESDC during that time, dozens of phone calls, sir, with ESDC on the government's—