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Natural Resources committee  Each country is going to have to contribute to the overall measures that are going to be possible in order to achieve the objectives that we have set collectively. Our emissions reduction plan contains in detail—

May 18th, 2022Committee meeting

John Hannaford

Natural Resources committee  I think it's been broadly recognized that climate capture and storage is an important aspect of an overall climate plan.

May 18th, 2022Committee meeting

John Hannaford

Natural Resources committee  I am aware that there are a number of studies that suggest a variety of different outcomes with respect to carbon capture and storage. This is, however, a matter that continues to evolve as an area of technology. It is going to be a critical aspect of our overall approach as we approach decarbonization generally.

May 18th, 2022Committee meeting

John Hannaford

May 18th, 2022Committee meeting

John Hannaford

Public Accounts committee  Thank you very much, Mr. Chair and members of the committee, for this opportunity. I'd like to begin by recognizing that we're meeting today on the traditional territory of the Algonquin Anishinabe peoples. I'd also like to thank the commissioner of the environment and sustainable development for his audit of the just transition, and I'm pleased to inform you, Chair, that Natural Resources Canada is working with other departments to execute a plan to fulfill his recommendations.

June 7th, 2022Committee meeting

John Hannaford

Public Accounts committee  Thank you very much, Mr. Chair, for the question. As I mentioned in my opening statement, we accept the recommendations of the commissioner and welcome the analysis being done for this important evolving area of policy. The specific recommendations of the task force on coal are largely under way.

June 7th, 2022Committee meeting

John Hannaford

Public Accounts committee  I'm sorry, Mr. Chair, but I'm not sure I heard the beginning of the question.

June 7th, 2022Committee meeting

John Hannaford

Public Accounts committee  The government is obviously very conscious of rising prices and affordability, generally. The process with respect to net zero and a just transition is one that will evolve over time, in part based on the circumstances we are dealing with. Those sorts of supports—again, my colleagues from the regional agencies can provide more detailed analysis of the outputs achieved—are looking at specific opportunities at a community level to evolve toward the goals we are seeking to achieve.

June 7th, 2022Committee meeting

John Hannaford

Public Accounts committee  I would say that the work that has been under way to address the issues that are addressed in the audit is multi-faceted. We have established a governance structure pursuant to suggestions that have been made at both the director general level and the director level, in order to ensure that we have appropriate co-ordination and tracking of the progress that has been made with respect to the just transition.

June 7th, 2022Committee meeting

John Hannaford

Public Accounts committee  I'll start, Mr. Chair. We have a committee structure now that derives from a deputy minister's implementation committee that relates to climate. At both the director general and the director level, we now have a governance structure within the government. I'd also note that as part of the ongoing work with respect to potential legislation, we have been consulting very widely, including with unions, with a view to establishing some of the principles that should be guiding all policy development in this area and all the work that we will be doing.

June 7th, 2022Committee meeting

John Hannaford

Public Accounts committee  In this context, as I mentioned, we have now established a governance structure that transcends this department and includes other relevant parts of the government to ensure that we are responding to the recommendations made by the commissioner. That work continues. As I also mentioned, the work that we are doing with respect to potential legislation will further refine some of the policy direction that will be given with respect to our elaboration of just transition.

June 7th, 2022Committee meeting

John Hannaford

Public Accounts committee  As I say, I think we have established a governance structure. This is something that we continue to do—

June 7th, 2022Committee meeting

John Hannaford

Public Accounts committee  The department is responsible for what the department does. I am responsible for what the department does. We are now elaborating our strategy with respect to just transition, including this governance.

June 7th, 2022Committee meeting

John Hannaford

Public Accounts committee  I'm not sure I understand the premise of the question. We have been pursuing a policy that is being elaborated over time. I am accountable for the actions of the department, and the department is now pursuing its strategies with respect to just transition and with respect to the transition of our energy production and—

June 7th, 2022Committee meeting

John Hannaford

Public Accounts committee  The International Labour Organization, which is one of the sources of expertise with respect to a just transition, emphasizes the importance of social engagement with respect to development of policies. We are taking that very seriously and are working, as I say, through an extensive consultation process that will manifest itself then in the “What We Heard” report in the fall, with legislation to follow.

June 7th, 2022Committee meeting

John Hannaford