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Natural Resources committee  Certainly that issue of modelling is something that we're very alive to and that we continue to work with colleagues with respect to. Hopefully, one of the benefits of this council that I mentioned is that we can get a little deeper into how we see the future and, therefore, what kinds of projections there would be in order to fill in the plans, but there's no question that there will be an increase in demand for electricity.

March 21st, 2023Committee meeting

John Hannaford

Natural Resources committee  I really think the intention of these conversations we're having is to have place-based strategies. I've talked to labour movement leaders in Alberta, for instance, and that was precisely what they were asking for. It was not to have generalized.... I'm sorry. I've hit my time limit.

March 21st, 2023Committee meeting

John Hannaford

Natural Resources committee  I'm very obedient. It's not to have abstract plans, but to think very specifically about what the economy of the future is going to look like and then think about what the job implications of that are.

March 21st, 2023Committee meeting

John Hannaford

Natural Resources committee  The government has identified a multi-faceted strategy. It was released last December. It really does transcend the scope of critical minerals and their application. As you say, the geopolitics of this are not incidental. This is one of the reasons we are at a moment for Canada.

March 21st, 2023Committee meeting

John Hannaford

Natural Resources committee  I think the minister is saying that one of the critical pieces around the sustainable jobs plan and the work that the government is doing is to align that with the work we're also doing through the regional tables exercise. That is intended to describe essentially a regional economic strategy for each of the provinces and territories so that, as we think about issues like labour availability and labour development, we're doing it in the context of an economic plan that is both agreed upon and tested with the private sector, with labour movements and with indigenous communities so that it is relevant.

March 21st, 2023Committee meeting

John Hannaford

Natural Resources committee  I think our expectation is that, as is evident in some of the conversations we are having, there are going to be huge opportunities across the country. We really are at a moment right now where Canada has assets that are of real importance. There is an opportunity for us to act on those in a way that should give enormous hope to people as they are thinking about the future of employment and the future of economic development generally, whether it is as a result of the critical minerals we have across the country or as a result of the deployment of hydrogen technologies and biofuels.

March 21st, 2023Committee meeting

John Hannaford

Natural Resources committee  They're not for the construction of the TMX pipeline. They are to support accommodation measures to indigenous communities.

March 21st, 2023Committee meeting

John Hannaford

Natural Resources committee  These are specific accommodation measures that have been undertaken with the indigenous communities affected in the region. Governance is established to deal with these issues, and the specific item that's covered in supplementary estimates (C) is to address that.

March 21st, 2023Committee meeting

John Hannaford

Natural Resources committee  Thanks, Mr. Chair. The critical minerals strategy was underpinned by a $3.8-billion funding announcement, which was in part around exploration, in part around infrastructure and in part around research and development. Those funds are in the process of being unlocked right now.

March 21st, 2023Committee meeting

John Hannaford

Natural Resources committee  Yes. We're lucky in Canada to be blessed with a very clean grid generally. Nuclear plays an important role currently with respect to that in a number of jurisdictions, including, importantly, Ontario. The importance of small modular reactors is something that we have highlighted through the strategy you mentioned.

March 21st, 2023Committee meeting

John Hannaford

Natural Resources committee  Yes, regional tables are important. As the minister mentioned, we are seeking to establish across the country with each of the jurisdictions a dialogue to establish areas where we have identified priorities where there is a particular regional advantage, both in terms of the domestic realities but also in terms of the comparative advantage internationally where we could think about trade opportunities.

March 21st, 2023Committee meeting

John Hannaford

Natural Resources committee  Thank you, Mr. Chair. The Trans Mountain extension is forecast now to be completed by the end of this calendar year. We've discussed the estimated cost at this stage. As the minister stressed, the advice we've received from financial advisers suggests both that the current financing options are viable and that the asset will continue to be a viable asset.

March 21st, 2023Committee meeting

John Hannaford

Natural Resources committee  Thanks very much, Mr. Chair. First of all, the EV mandate, the sales mandate that will apply in Canada, would be sales of EVs by 2035. That's the horizon with respect to the vehicle side. The critical minerals strategy that we announced in December is intended to be a full-spectrum strategy.

March 21st, 2023Committee meeting

John Hannaford

Public Accounts committee  Mr. Chair, I would say that we are continuing to have our conversations with experts, with other departments and with the CER, all with a view to being as accurate as we can be as to this area.

December 2nd, 2022Committee meeting

John Hannaford

Public Accounts committee  Thanks, Mr. Chair. Our intention through the hydrogen strategy was to create a call to action, which was to show the potential of this area of energy generation. This was something that was a product of analysis that was done, as my colleague mentioned, through a series of consultations with experts.

December 2nd, 2022Committee meeting

John Hannaford