Information & Ethics committee  That would be an example of acceptable. There are a number of different examples of what would be acceptable, and I think it's situation-dependent.

Information & Ethics committee  No. To be clear, the former president of the Treasury Board was a great support, certainly in my tenure of working at the Treasury Board. I would say, if I could offer it, that I wish we could go more quickly at things. We need to go more quickly at things. I think there is an

Information & Ethics committee  I think how I would answer that is that, in my experience, digital is everybody's job. This is about delivering programs and services to Canadians, both businesses and individual citizens, and when you make it one person's job, it doesn't get done.

Information & Ethics committee  I feel that you should keep the CIO of Canada, for sure.

Information & Ethics committee  I can't speak to the procurement approach—that's out of my lane—but I can tell you that there's no world in which we're going to fix this where we're not going to need to work with contractors and professional services firms. We do not have the capacity inside of government to s

Information & Ethics committee  I think it's a very difficult question to answer, unless we understand the classification of the information you're using. It's not a simple answer. I think it's to stick within the approved set of tools that we provide to our politicians.

Information & Ethics committee  It's at the end of December. That is correct.

Information & Ethics committee  None whatsoever.

Information & Ethics committee  I think the Auditor General just published a report on the state of IT modernization. I've not had a chance to read it. I think it's a good and accurate reflection of where we find ourselves in terms of our current state of technology. We've not advanced in the last 13 years. I d

Information & Ethics committee  TikTok was one that we started with. Since then, you'll note that we've banned WeChat and Kaspersky Lab. The direction that I provided to my team is that we will continue to tighten it. We need to continue to lessen the number of different applications that we—

Information & Ethics committee  I think if there's an acceptable reason for us to be using a social media platform for business purposes.... We do reach a certain type of individual through social media. I think about my 21-year-old and 24-year-old kids. They use social media, so we have to use that as a mechan

Information & Ethics committee  Acceptable to me would be that the value of doing the thing outweighs the risk of any potential downside.

Information & Ethics committee  The value could be things like, if we were doing COVID vaccination, for example, to reach out to demographics to help—

Information & Ethics committee  Thank you very much. I intend to take only a couple of minutes. I want to leave time for committee members to ask any questions they may have about this important topic. Thank you for having me today virtually. I think the deputy commissioner outlined a number of things very we

Information & Ethics committee  I have a few comments I'd like to make, but I'll keep them brief.