Information & Ethics committee  Thank you very much for your question. I think one of the challenges in this space is that you have departments individually interpreting exceptions and exclusions. Part of what we have done is given guidance to the town on how we would like to have things applied. As well, the

Information & Ethics committee  There were two consultations. One was done with the general population, and we published a “what we heard” report. At that point, we reoriented and said we needed to speak with indigenous communities. We did that engagement over a period of about nine months and published a “what

Information & Ethics committee  I don't know the answer to that question. We can certainly come back to the committee with an answer on that. I don't believe so, but—

Information & Ethics committee  I will just give comfort that the program, in terms of how we're modernizing the technology at immigration, is well in flight. Again, we're not waiting for action plans to take place. We're working very closely with our IRCC colleagues to better digitize that experience.

Information & Ethics committee  Thank you. This is my first appearance in front of this committee. Thank you for having me this afternoon. I'm still a relative newbie to government. I've been less than two years as the chief information officer of Canada. I'm joining from a 30-year career in the private sector

Public Accounts committee  I just have one last comment. I hope today this committee saw a little bit of the team play that's going on within government on this really important file. It does take a community to deliver digital in government. We are behind; we need to accelerate. We're going to learn from

Public Accounts committee  At this point, part of the work we're going through is analyzing what that right number is going to be. I can say that 50% will go to the cloud and 50% will stay in data centres, but we have not defined that completely, yet. I think that's a reasonable proxy. Again, not all syste

Public Accounts committee  Yes, very much so. It's not needing to buy, install and keep updating our own equipment. That is the accountability of a cloud service provider. It puts us on a path of ever-fresh modernization, which would be a very good path to be on.

Public Accounts committee  In terms of a dollar value, from an overall government perspective I think the digital spend that we do is substantial, and the largest issue we have is around delivery against the work that we've committed to do. I would suggest that it is less about spending more money on digit

Public Accounts committee  We need to invest more consistently. The funding model.... The way that government funds, at least to my understanding—and I'm by no means an expert—is on annual rolling basis or a programmatic view. It is also done in a very decentralized way, and that is where I would say we ha

Public Accounts committee  I think it's a great question. We don't have a choice. Canadians expect it. In every other part of their day-to-day life, they are engaging digitally with companies all over Canada. I think—to Sony's point—we're up to the challenge, but we have a very big hill to climb. I think

Public Accounts committee  Currently, we have a cybersecurity posting that's up right now, and we are incredibly pleased with the number of applicants we've had. The Canadian Centre for Cyber Security is an employer of choice. Lots of tech folks want to work there. The thing we are struggling with is the

Public Accounts committee  I will let Sony answer that. Just for pure cloud services, we have eight service providers, if I have that number correctly. I'll let my colleague from SSC answer that.

Public Accounts committee  We do those on a regular basis. Since I have been with the government, we have done two. We just finished the second one, and I'm expecting the report in the next number of weeks. Typically—

Public Accounts committee  With the caveat of “anything that does not expose risk publicly”, yes.