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Justice committee  I mentioned to you, Mr. Petit, that I was the toxicologist who was the expert witness in Mr. St-Germain's investigation.

June 14th, 2007Committee meeting

Marthe Dalpé-Scott

Justice committee  Exactly. That's an investigation in which members of the teaching staff at the Montreal breathalyzer test lab were involved. To show they were objective, they asked someone from outside the lab to come and examine the evidence and to testify. So, yes, I handled that for a longer

June 14th, 2007Committee meeting

Marthe Dalpé-Scott

Justice committee  All that I want to add to Evan's conclusion is that on the laboratory challenge that they would have liked a roadside device for drugs, the reason we do not want the scientists to support launching any cheap old unreliable piece of instrumentation is that you'll end up with as ma

June 14th, 2007Committee meeting

Marthe Dalpé-Scott

Justice committee  I just wanted to add, Mr. Thompson, that you're preaching to the converted right now—

June 14th, 2007Committee meeting

Marthe Dalpé-Scott

Justice committee  —and I am not the person who can bring that about. We just belong to a scientific organization, either as a peace officer or as a scientist, to support the Department of Justice of Canada in their endeavours. So you really are preaching to the converted.

June 14th, 2007Committee meeting

Marthe Dalpé-Scott

Justice committee  You're talking about the tests—

June 14th, 2007Committee meeting

Marthe Dalpé-Scott

Justice committee  That's obviously related once again to what Corporal Graham said in his testimony. It's already based on a very well tested system and on a number of court experiences in the United States. If, on the police side, these tests are well established and everything is well done, I ca

June 14th, 2007Committee meeting

Marthe Dalpé-Scott

Justice committee  No, they don't go to the lab.

June 14th, 2007Committee meeting

Marthe Dalpé-Scott

Justice committee  I'd like to give the laboratories' point of view, Mr. Petit. We can take the example of the services of our DNA labs. When this started, everyone went to court. Twenty-two employees received subpoenas to testify in court. Obviously, our labs were empty. However, after that experi

June 14th, 2007Committee meeting

Marthe Dalpé-Scott

Justice committee  On this question of yours, sir, perhaps I may add something about this fear that somebody in the public could be wrongly accused of anything. As a professional forensic toxicologist for 23 years, I can assure you that.... Mr. Ménard started this line of questioning, and we never

June 14th, 2007Committee meeting

Marthe Dalpé-Scott

Justice committee  If I may intervene, if I'm not mistaken, I think there may be a translation issue here. I think Monsieur Ménard wants to know at the various roadsides exactly what standard field sobriety tests will be administered. What you're describing is back at the DRE stage. I'm sorry, I

June 14th, 2007Committee meeting

Marthe Dalpé-Scott

Justice committee  All right, Mr. Ménard. I think that, for the first step, which is screening for the presence of a drug or a combination of alcohol and drugs that could impair faculties, under proposed paragraph 253.1(2)(a), Corporal Graham will give you the details since he teaches that part of

June 14th, 2007Committee meeting

Marthe Dalpé-Scott

Justice committee  The drug has to be from the family of drugs that the DRE officer determined during his or her observation was the source of impairment. There are seven families. So it is not anything we find...because believe me, we're very good at finding very minute amounts of drugs in our lab

June 14th, 2007Committee meeting

Marthe Dalpé-Scott

Justice committee  The DRE is trained very systematically. I can pass this one on to Corporal Graham and he can reassure you how they are trained. Please.

June 14th, 2007Committee meeting

Marthe Dalpé-Scott

Justice committee  I'm replacing Shirley Treacy, sir. Actually, I was here as an observer on Tuesday. I was a co-writer of the position paper that Shirley submitted on behalf of the drugs and driving committee as well.

June 14th, 2007Committee meeting

Marthe Dalpé-Scott