Justice committee  It was. In fact, as we have said, this may be a partial explanation overall for some of that change. As for the degree to which it's responsible for what percentage of the increase, there's no way for us to assess that.

Justice committee  I will actually allow Mr. Turner to explain that, but what I believe you're referring to could be our definition and the way we collect gang-related homicide information data.

Justice committee  We can provide that.

Justice committee  Thank you, Mr. Chairman, for the opportunity to present to the committee regarding minimum mandatory sentencing and firearm-related offences. The data I will present today come from two main sources: data from our uniform crime reporting survey of police-reported crime incident

Justice committee  In terms of the overall trend in violent crime, our police-reported data show that there were about 304,000 violent incidents in 2005. The overall violent crime rate in 2005 was similar to the rate we saw in 2004. In general, though, after increasing fairly steadily for 30 years,

Justice committee  As Michael has said, to produce such an estimate would require making several assumptions in the data.

Justice committee  In our court data, and Mr. Grimes can certainly add to this, we do not collect any information regarding the nature of the undertakings within the procedures. We gather information on the sentences and the natures of the offences and so forth, so to my knowledge we can't speak to

Justice committee  Within this graphic that we're displaying, these are folks who have been returned to the correctional system within 12 months.

Justice committee  What I was trying to say is that we can only in this chart speak to those who end up back in the corrections services. We can't speak to any offences that may have been committed that don't end up back in the corrections services system. That's what we cannot speak to in this gra

Justice committee  It means breaching a condition and it also means that the breach was serious enough to result in an admission to custody.

Justice committee  One can certainly make the link that you need to offend to be involved, but you can also offend and not be involved. That's the difference. For example, one can commit an offence and not end up in the corrections service. That's the difference in these data.

Justice committee  What I am saying is that you cannot necessarily draw the conclusion that this is only due to a conditional sentence. There are other factors that may be at play here.

Justice committee  When you look at these data, as you say, there are many factors that could be going on behind the data. You could have prior history information that's going on behind the data that we did not take account of. You could have risk assessment going on within the data that we cannot

Justice committee  We don't collect those data within our data. We can't speak to overall breaches. We can only speak to those breaches that result in an admission to custody.

Justice committee  Certainly; I can explain that chart. As a reminder about what we've done in chart 12, we've taken the Criminal Code offences that were listed at the end of the Bill C-9 legislative summary and applied them to our 2003-2004 data. We've done this overall and you can see it by offe