Natural Resources committee  Oh, that's a gross misstatement, and actually, if you look at statistics in the past 40 years and compare the amount of oil that has been transported then and today, of course there has been a tremendous increase in transport and again a tremendous decrease in incidents. In fact,

Natural Resources committee  --the additional layers of protection.

Natural Resources committee  A single hull is just the one hull of the vessel. A double hull includes a second skin, so if there's a grounding and there's a piercing within the first hull of the vessel, there's still the second skin. I'm just looking at people laughing, but anyhow--

Natural Resources committee  Anyhow, a double hull affords a second skin to the vessel, a second layer of protection.

Natural Resources committee  Yes, I am.

Natural Resources committee  I think you need to look at the holistic regime. We have the ship-source oil pollution fund in Canada, and then we have the international oil pollution compensation fund. That's an international fund. I don't have the numbers in front of me, but billions are available for any t

Natural Resources committee  It's way in excess of $30 million, way in excess.

Natural Resources committee  Liability will be there irrespective of the type of accident. I don't understand what you're getting at with this.

Natural Resources committee  Thank you. I think that report needs further analysis, but I can tell you that with oil response in Canada it's a cascading system. In other words, the coast guard is the point of first response, but in addition to that, and not to a lesser degree...in fact, I would say that the

Natural Resources committee  I think the point that--

Natural Resources committee  No, I didn't say the Americans are putting up the price of oil. I'm saying that if Canada is limited to providing its resource to one market--

Natural Resources committee  --a single market price will be the price we can get. We won't be able to compete internationally.

Natural Resources committee  I think we could look to Norway for examples--

Natural Resources committee  Now we're getting into a different discussion. You're leading it into a different discussion.

Natural Resources committee  I'm sorry?