Evidence of meeting #118 for Canadian Heritage in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was cbcradio-canada.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Catherine Tait  President and Chief Executive Officer, CBC/Radio-Canada
Marco Dubé  Chief Transformation Officer and Executive Vice-President, People and Culture, CBC/Radio-Canada

5:30 p.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, CBC/Radio-Canada

Catherine Tait

The government. The board of directors makes an evaluation of my performance and submits it to the minister. The minister then reviews it and submits it to the government.

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

Kevin Waugh Conservative Saskatoon—Grasswood, SK

Has that been done? When will it be done?

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President and Chief Executive Officer, CBC/Radio-Canada

Catherine Tait

For this year, no. It will be done in June.

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

Kevin Waugh Conservative Saskatoon—Grasswood, SK

When would that be made public? Would it be made public for you?

You say most bonuses in your corporation are in July. Could they give that money to you in June?

5:30 p.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, CBC/Radio-Canada

Catherine Tait

No, I do not receive.... Again, I'm part of a government process that can take take many months.

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

Kevin Waugh Conservative Saskatoon—Grasswood, SK

You, as the CEO, may not get a bonus until the fall.

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President and Chief Executive Officer, CBC/Radio-Canada

Catherine Tait

I may not get it until a year later.

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Conservative

Kevin Waugh Conservative Saskatoon—Grasswood, SK

Have you received previous previous bonuses on time, being July?

5:30 p.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, CBC/Radio-Canada

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

Kevin Waugh Conservative Saskatoon—Grasswood, SK

When have you received your previous bonuses?

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President and Chief Executive Officer, CBC/Radio-Canada

Catherine Tait

Probably nine months to a year later.

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Conservative

Kevin Waugh Conservative Saskatoon—Grasswood, SK

But you're going to be retired.

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President and Chief Executive Officer, CBC/Radio-Canada

Catherine Tait

I beg your pardon.

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

Kevin Waugh Conservative Saskatoon—Grasswood, SK

You're going to be retired, I think, in January.

5:30 p.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, CBC/Radio-Canada

Catherine Tait

I know. I'll have to wait.

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

Kevin Waugh Conservative Saskatoon—Grasswood, SK

Who makes the recommendation for the other seven? Is it you to the board, or is it the board?

5:30 p.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, CBC/Radio-Canada

Catherine Tait

I make a recommendation based on performance and the KPIs. We would assess the key performance indicators, and then there's a 30% personal objectives element. I make the evaluation of that performance piece for each of the seven executives.

May 7th, 2024 / 5:30 p.m.

Conservative

Kevin Waugh Conservative Saskatoon—Grasswood, SK

Okay. Thank you for clarifying that.

Your KPIs aren't doing well. I don't know what you're using for key performance indicators. I would say that 80% are not met in your corporation—I'm going to challenge you on that—yet you continue to give bonuses, or performance bonuses, whatever you want to call them.

The network isn't doing very well. I mean, I laughed at Mr. Noormohamed talking about the NHL on CTV. You've given it to Rogers for nothing because you couldn't fill the time when you lost the NHL contract, and Rogers picked it up. You've actually given Rogers carte blanche: Go ahead. Three hours are yours. Six hours are yours on Saturday. We won't have anything to do with it, but we get eyeballs on free TV. Isn't that right?

5:30 p.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, CBC/Radio-Canada

Catherine Tait

They paid many billions of dollars for the NHL rights.

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

Kevin Waugh Conservative Saskatoon—Grasswood, SK

They did, but not to you.

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President and Chief Executive Officer, CBC/Radio-Canada

Catherine Tait

No, and therefore, that was why we did not feel we should compete with a private broadcaster in that instance. If there's a private broadcaster that wants to purchase the rights, we step back.

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

Kevin Waugh Conservative Saskatoon—Grasswood, SK

You did.

5:30 p.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, CBC/Radio-Canada

Catherine Tait

To be very clear, you're talking about television—

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

You have 30 seconds.

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

Kevin Waugh Conservative Saskatoon—Grasswood, SK

I'm talking about what?