Evidence of meeting #21 for Agriculture and Agri-Food in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was producers.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Pierre Chouinard  President, Fédération des producteurs de pommes de terre du Québec
Philippe Gemme  President and Farmer, AMA-Terre
Richard St-Aubin  Vice-President, AMA-Terre
Clément Lalancette  Director General, Fédération des producteurs de pommes de terre du Québec
Denis Bilodeau  Vice-President, Union des producteurs agricoles du Québec
Serge Lebeau  Senior International Trade Manager, Union des producteurs agricoles du Québec
Rolf Penner  Farmer, Frontier Center for Public Policy

11:10 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Gerry Ritz

I call this meeting to order. We're going to have a one-hour hearing on the golden nematode outbreak in Quebec in the affected area. The gentlemen with us today are the farmers from that area.

We have Pierre Chouinard, who is the president, and Serge Lalancette, who is the director general of the Fédération des producteurs de pommes de terre du Québec. From AMA-Terre, we have Philippe Gemme, who is the president and a farmer. And we have a fourth person, Richard St-Aubin. Welcome, gentlemen.

We have a couple of presentations, and we are tightly scheduled with that hour. We would love to get in as many questions in as we can, so I'd ask that you keep your presentations fairly tight. I know the situation you're under.

Who is going to lead off?

Thank you, Pierre. Please begin.

11:10 a.m.

Pierre Chouinard President, Fédération des producteurs de pommes de terre du Québec

Ladies and gentlemen, we thank the members of the Standing Committee on Agriculture and Agri-food for receiving us.

Let us speak of the role of the Fédération des producteurs de pommes de terre du Québec. The Fédération des producteurs de pommes de terre du Québec (FPPTQ), an affiliate of the Union des producteurs agricoles (UPA), represents Quebec's 392 potato producers. Producers are grouped into four categories, according to their principal market, notably the fresh or table market, pre-peeled (French fry) processing, potato chip processing and seed potatoes.

The role of the Fédération is to promote potatoes, to defend members' interests and to develop the production. In addition, as a producers' marketing board, the Fédération manages and administers the Quebec potato producers' Joint Plan, by virtue of the powers conferred by the Act respecting the marketing of agricultural, food and fish products.

What are the major issues?

The discovery of golden nematodes in the municipality of Saint-Amable, along with the subsequent creation of a regulated area and a listing of conditions for the movement of regulated products, have caused an increase in production costs not covered by existing programs and the loss (or even the absence) of income for 20 farms in the municipality, on an area of approximately 1,250 hectares under potato production.

Although all the parties involved agree that these farm businesses should be compensated through a disaster assistance program, which would be better adapted and separate from the income stabilization program, no one is able to respond rapidly and immediately, within the framework of existing programs, to the urgent cash-flow problem.

What are the facts?

The golden nematode is a quarantine pest requiring compulsory disclosure under the Plant Protection Act. The golden nematode is of no risk to the safety and wholesomeness of potatoes but its presence can cause yield losses in the order of 80%. Furthermore, it can remain dormant in the soil for many years while waiting for a host plant such as potatoes, tomatoes or eggplant in order to reproduce.

The efforts of the Canadian Food Inspection Agency (CFIA) resulted in the rapid designation of a regulated area and the re-opening of the borders to international trade. Officially, trade resumed this morning. In fact, we have been informed that the first delivery truck arrived in the United States this morning. As a result of its work, losses to producers and exporters located outside the regulated area were limited.

In Saint-Amable, producers' efforts and cooperation facilitated the task of the CFIA agents. In total, 20 farms are affected by the restrictions. However, these farms specializing in potato production will no longer be able to grow potatoes in the regulated area without authorization of the CFIA.

There is an urgent need for short-term cash flow.

For some farms, their last potato sales date back to March 2006. Since then, they planted their crops in the spring managed them over the whole summer. Some of the affected producers are young farmers dealing with high debt loads. For all of these farmers, the discovery of the golden nematode constitutes, in itself, a cause of great stress.

Because of pressures by suppliers and financial institutions, the refusal of buyers to take their products and the strain of providing for their basic needs, the situation has become intolerable for the affected families. The region's agricultural producers have grouped together to request immediate assistance to at least pay bills that are over 90 days overdue and to cover the cost of groceries.

None of the existing programs can provide immediate aid. Some producers are in a state of despair. Industry representatives fear the worst and are requesting immediate support before irreversible actions are taken. in this regard, a psychologist is meeting regularly with the producers to give moral support and to counsel them through this crisis.

For the moment, representatives of different levels of government admit their helplessness to support these producers through the existing programs such as the CAlS program, the advance payment program and the various financing programs that require loan guarantees.

The producers of the regulated area have grouped together under the name AMA-Terre Inc. The group is calling for immediate assistance white waiting for a disaster assistance program to be put into place; assistance which it evaluates at $50,000 for farms with less than 60 hectares (150 acres) and $75,000 for the others.

As an example, a farm with 60 hectares of potatoes would generate sales in the order of $250,000 to $450,000. This advance should suffice as long as an ad hoc program is implemented within one month.

If more time is required to put a program in place, the advance should be adjusted accordingly, to include direct costs related to the production, which are about $4,000 per hectare. On the average, this amount represents approximately $240,000 per farm, as shown in the table on the following page.

As the table shows, total direct costs amount to $3,991 a hectare. This represents the total production costs. For a 60-hectare farm, this represents an average total cost of $239,000, almost $240,000. It should not be forgotten that most of these farms did not make any sales in spring 2006.

With regard to the 2006 crop, as a first step, the Fédération, the UPA, Agriculture and Agri-food Canada (AAC),the ministère de l'Agriculture, des Pêcheries et de l'Alimentation du Québec (MAPAQ), the CFIA, the Financière agricole du Québec and other producer and distributor associations have all committed to solve the 2006 dilemma.

Over the years, potato producers have become specialized into four different market categories and produce varieties that correspond to industry needs. Using the powers of the Joint Plan, the Fédération, along with committees for each category, have negotiated marketing agreements with the Association des emballeurs de pommes de terre, the Association des transformateurs de légumes frais ( (ATLF) and with the chip processors. The ATLF agreement, in particular, makes provisions for supplying a minimum of 60% of the processing plants' needs, the balance being left for speculation on the open market.

Over and above the seed category, which represents about 9% of Quebec's potato production area, Table 2 shows details of the various potato market categories. Potatoes for in-store sales represent 53% of the market, potato chips account for 20% and pre-peeled account for 18%, while seed crops account for 9%. This is shown in Table 2, in addition to the market and varieties.

In addition, the Canadian Food Inspection Agency (CFIA) and the American Department of Agriculture (USDA) have come to an agreement on a protocol to reduce the commercial repercussions of the potato cyst nematode discovery to a minimum. This protocol provides for the creation of regulated areas and the setting of conditions for domestic and international movement of regulated products coming from these areas.

According to this agreement, only potatoes coming from a field declared “uncontaminated" from nematodes may be marketed to the fresh or table market. Potatoes coming from contaminated fields must be processed in approved facilities. Presently, analyses have confirmed the presence of nematodes in most parts of the fields, notably on 304 hectares out of a total of 404 hectares.

The potato farms in the municipality of Saint-Amable are mainly specialized in the fresh (table) market, with 62% of their potato production area devoted to this market, as shown in Table 3.

The application of this agreement would cause a significant increase in potato supply to the processing market with varieties that do not correspond to the strict requirements for cooking and size, inevitably resulting in a drastic price reduction, which would compromise the profit-earning capacity of Canadian farms specialized in this market sector.

Consequently, the advisory committee created for the management of this crisis and chaired by MAPAQ unanimously recommends the destruction of the crop in the field and in storage and to compensate the farmers at fair market value.

Regarding the limits of existing programs and the need for an ad hoc program, the CFIA offers financial compensation to producers where their herd or flock are condemned and ordered destroyed under the Health of Animals Act.

As pertains to the Plant Protection Act, although it does hot stipulate a specific amount to cover crop losses natural disasters such as the golden nematode, Article 39 of this Act allows the Minister to issue payments to cover losses suffered by producers in the designated zone. The Minister has already passed regulations authorizing compensation to agricultural producers who are faced with quarantine pests in Canada.

Consequently, the Fédération, the UPA and the other producers' associations are asking for the implementation, in cooperation with the affected groups, of an ad hoc program that will compensate the farms, while considering the following criteria: payment to cover the extra work required by the farm labour force to clean and disinfect machinery, equipment and vehicles within the regulated area, payment of 75% of the purchase price of equipment required to comply with conditions for the movement of regulated products, and compensation for the loss of value of assets, of production losses and loss of markets.

In conclusion, the Hon. Chuck Strahl (Minister of Agriculture and Agri-Food) has enacted a Ministerial Order under the Plant Protection Act. This Order established a regulated area of approximately 4,500 hectares, of which about 1,250 hectares are in potatoes, as well as restrictions and prohibitions on the movement of certain items, in order to combat the golden nematode infection in Quebec.

Work done over the 2007 winter will permit the evaluation of medium and long-term losses for farms located inside the regulated area and the identification of possible solutions on a case-by-case basis for each of them.

We ask that the calculation of losses be conducted by an external agency, as was the case with Quebec tobacco producers. In the very short term, the industry is urging the minister to order the destruction of the crops in the field and in storage in the regulated area, so as not to upset markets for Canadian producers specialized in processed potato production, to rectify prices above the cost of production and to ensure that affected producers, who are unable to find buyers for their produce, receive compensation.

Finally, and most urgently, the minister must intervene to send immediate cash advances to producers who are short of liquid assets. This advance should be adjusted according to the size of the farm operation and according to the anticipated timeframe for implementing an ad hoc program.

11:20 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Gerry Ritz

Thank you, Mr. Chouinard.

Monsieur Gemme.

11:20 a.m.

Philippe Gemme President and Farmer, AMA-Terre

Good day. I would like to thank you for welcoming me here today. I am very nervous, but I’will do my best. I would like to introduce you to my group.

My name is Philippe Gemme, farmer and spokesperson for AMA-Terre. AMA-Terre is made up of producers of various products. We manage a total of 3,000 acres of potato fields in the municipalities of Saint-Amable, Sainte-Julie, Saint-Marc-sur-Richelieu and Saint-Mathieu-de-Beloeil, among others.

I am here to give you more information regarding the human drama taking place among producers in various sectors.

Each of us has to deal with the disastrous consequences of the discovery of this parasite every single day. I am weighing my words carefully. This discovery resulted in harsh emergency measures with which we have had to comply, which we have done with great diligence.

September 27, 2006 was one of the hardest days of my life. I had to announce to my region’s producers, while accompanied by Canadian Food Inspection Agency and Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada officers, that there would be a regulated area within Saint-Amable, that their lives would be turned upside-down and that our region’s economy would be severely affected.

But that’s not all. There are also extensive consequences on the youth who were here and ready to become the next generation of producers. Most of our children studied at the Institut de technologie agroalimentaire (ITA), where they underwent agricultural training. They were ready to take over our businesses. How can we tell them that their future is no longer here, in the fields where they grew up? How can we tell them that they will have to farm other crops, or even take up another profession altogether? How can we encourage them when their dreams are crumbling? All of these issues are bringing about economic constraints that will affect them more than others, both now and in the future.

Today, the region’s stores are full and none of these potatoes can be found on the consumer’s table. In addition, the golden nematode working group recommended the destruction of all remaining potatoes and financial compensation for producers for losses incurred as a result of this recommendation.

Some producers were forced to buy, with much consternation, potatoes from other regions in order to keep their food markets and their employees. We have had to suspend payments to various suppliers and financial institutions because of the obvious lack of liquidity. This is keeping us awake at night, because we take our commitments very seriously. We are here today to issue a distress call, an SOS. It is imperative that we survive what is going on right now.

Several producers have not sold anything since August, and debts are accumulating. The value of our land is plummeting and our sales are in free-fall, both for 2006 and for years to come. Our farms are threatened.

I would like to add something that I learned this morning. Approximately 80% of our land is currently infested with the parasite. On October 13, a minority of Quebec producers was unequivocally sacrificed in order to lift the US embargo. The Canadian government strongly negotiated these conditions so as to lift the USDA restrictions, while producers in Saint-Amable and the surrounding area were set aside in order to restart the Quebec economy, without negotiating short-term financial assistance.

This raises several questions. What will happen to the potato harvest in the coming years within the municipality targeted by the regulated area? What form of financial assistance will the affected producers receive in the short, medium and long term? Until now, no assistance has been offered by the federal or provincial governments and no ad hoc program has been put in place. The only program proposed was the Canadian Agricultural Income Stabilization program, or CAIS, but it is not adapted, nor is it adaptable, to the current crisis. Lastly, we would remind you that the Plant Protection Act allows the minister to order compensation in the event of such a disaster.

To conclude, since last August, several producers have not sold anything. The value of our land is dropping, our markets are ruined, our sales are in free-fall and our farms are threatened.

We are facing a veritable disaster. Faces with this urgent situation, on behalf of AMA-Terre, we are counting on your immediate support and efficiency to provide assistance to the affected producers. We are asking you to act immediately to meet the growing needs of the producers affected by the ministerial order and included within the regulated area.

Sorry for my language, I am very nervous.

11:30 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Gerry Ritz

Thank you.

Mr. St-Aubin, you have a couple of minutes left. Do you have something else to add?

11:30 a.m.

Richard St-Aubin Vice-President, AMA-Terre

Yes, I do.

Hello, dear members of the Standing Committee on Agriculture and Agri-Food.

My name is Richard St-Aubin and I am here to speak to you about the ornamental production in Saint-Amable affected by the Ministerial Order. I am a nursery farmer myself, and a spokesperson for AMA-Terre. I am part of an industry that includes 5,000 business in Quebec, generating more than 40,000 direct jobs and revenues of $1.5 billion a year.

On August 16, the CFIA informed us of the presence of golden nematode in our region, a pest subject to mandatory reporting, which led to the closing of the Canada-US border for all agricultural products coming from Quebec. On October 13, following an agreement between Canada and the United States, the CFIA informed us that a ministerial order was decreed, which placed restrictions on agricultural enterprises in our region and put them under quarantine.

Because of these measures, the five ornamental production businesses in Saint-Amable, four nurseries and one greenhouse, have already suffered considerable losses of revenue, estimated at over $200,000. Their short, medium and long-term future is greatly threatened, even if the golden nematode does not directly attack horticultural productions.

For us, the 2007 started yesterday and today in order to meet demand for our respective markets. When we saw the magnitude of the disaster in our region, all of our physical preparation and planning were suspended since the month of September. We have tried in vain to find solutions. On October 13, we practically had our business shut down without having anything offered to us.

Until now, too few questions of a technical or financial nature have been answered. What about soil analyses? Is there some kind of certification that could allow us to sell our products? Who will compensate us for our present and future losses, additional costs, new measures, possible relocations and the loss of value of our long-term assets? It certainly isn’t the current Canadian Agricultural Income Stabilization program that will be able to respond to the crisis currently faced by the region’s farmers.

Our clients are abandoning us, are debtors are worried, our crops are staying in the fields, but the saddest part of all, is that we, our employees and our families believe that things won’t ever be the same.

Until now, we have appreciated the support given us by the Canadian Food Inspection Agency, but time is of the essence. Our questions remain unanswered, and we are now asking them to the Government of Canada. In collaboration with the Fédération interdisciplinaire de l'horticulture ornementale du Québec, we are submitting a memorandum describing the urgent situation affecting horticultural enterprises in our region.

Thank you for listening.

11:35 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Gerry Ritz

Thank you, gentlemen.

We'll now move to our opening round of questions.

Mr. Easter.

11:35 a.m.

Liberal

Wayne Easter Liberal Malpeque, PE

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, gentlemen, for coming before the committee.

I'm from Prince Edward Island, and we haven't had experience with golden nematode, but we have had experience with being shut out of the market due to problems moving into the potato industry. To this day there are still farmers suffering financial consequences as a result of PVYn and potato wart. So there are very serious consequences here if the government doesn't move quickly enough.

Within the regulated area you're saying there are 4,500 hectares and 1,250 are in potatoes. What about other crops? Are there restrictions on those crops as well, or are we just talking about potatoes? If we're looking at a compensation package, it has to look at anything that moves. Am I correct?

11:35 a.m.

Vice-President, AMA-Terre

Richard St-Aubin

That's right.

11:35 a.m.

Liberal

Wayne Easter Liberal Malpeque, PE

On potatoes, I've heard two different points of view in the last couple of weeks. I'm told by some that because golden nematode doesn't hurt the tuber of the potatoes they would be available for processing if a processor would process them.

Am I hearing from you that the crop needs to be completely destroyed, or do negotiations need to be entered into to find a market for that product to limit the amount of loss?

11:35 a.m.

President, Fédération des producteurs de pommes de terre du Québec

Pierre Chouinard

Under the current agreement between the United States and the Canadian Food Inspection Agency, potatoes grown in fields that tested positive can only be sold in the processing market.

As we mentioned earlier, 62% of all potatoes grown in the Saint-Amable region are intended for sale in fresh markets, for consumption, for sale in grocery stores.

The two problems which arise are the following: firstly, varieties intended for the processing market are different than those intended for the fresh market. This is a major, immediate issue. Secondly, the processing market in Quebec is a market supplied by producers of processing-variety potatoes, which are covered by a marketing agreement with the certified processors association. Marketing contracts and agreements already meet 60% of their needs.

This means that at this time, there is nowhere in Quebec that can process crops from Saint-Amable, which were originally intended for other markets.

11:35 a.m.

Clément Lalancette Director General, Fédération des producteurs de pommes de terre du Québec

In addition, processors asked to take these potatoes must comply with a series of measures governing waste and waste water management, which they don’t want to do. If they have the choice between potatoes coming from a producer for whom they will not have to comply with this Canadian Food Inspection Agency protocol and potatoes from Saint-Amable, for which they would have to manage their waste water, they’will choose the first option. Simply put, they don’t want these potatoes.

11:35 a.m.

Liberal

Wayne Easter Liberal Malpeque, PE

There's no question about that. They have greater cleanup--their waste water. It may not be worth it at the end of the day.

How long is that region expected to be out of the market, or is it permanent? The golden nematode is there now, but what's the restriction timeframe? With potato wart a field is quarantined forever.

11:40 a.m.

President, Fédération des producteurs de pommes de terre du Québec

Pierre Chouinard

The parasite, the golden nematode, can live in the ground for 10, 15, 20, 25 or 30 years. It is currently found in Newfoundland and on Vancouver Island.

Tests have been conducted in the past in an attempt to eradicate the nematode, using Vapam or soil remediation techniques. Results were negative.

We are combating the nematode, a little bug, a microscopic worm that feeds off of the roots of the potato plant, which reduces crop yield by up to 80%. We do not have anything that can destroy this parasite at this time. This is a difficult situation.

The Canadian Food Inspection Agency affirms that in the following years, we will not be able to plant potatoes in the fields that tested positive.

11:40 a.m.

President and Farmer, AMA-Terre

Philippe Gemme

You spoke earlier about potatoes intended for processing. I experienced this as a producer. Let us speak in terms of vans, as that is a language that everyone can understand. Each van contains approximately 35 tons. I sent potatoes destined to be made into fries. We all know that fresh potatoes have to be reconditioned in order to be made into fries. However, under the protocol, these potatoes would need to be washed, a decision that I opposed. The potatoes started to rot two days later, and we had to throw them out. They weren’t usable anymore.

As soon as we say “Saint-Amable”, in either the fresh or processing markets, we see that people are scared to buy our product. In spite of our affirmations that the potatoes are fit for human consumption, just saying that they come from Saint-Amable provokes a reaction. A myth is being established.

Approximately 80% of the tests conducted in our fields came back positive. I’m not fooling myself: there probably won’t be any more potatoes in Saint-Amable.

What can we do now? Our stores are chock full. Some producers have to buy their potatoes elsewhere, simply to maintain their client base. It’s like selling potatoes for wooden nickels. Our potatoes are stored, but we can’t sell them. We have to buy potatoes from outside of the region in order to meet the needs of our clients and the markets. It is a sad situation.

Our employees don’t have anything left to pack. We aren’t working and we’re not making any money. Our region employs 100 people in this field. At the risk of repeating myself, the next generation is worried and is wondering what will happen. We are talking about 2006, but what about the future of our youth? They’re all asking me what they should do.

11:40 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Gerry Ritz

Mr. Malo.

11:40 a.m.

Bloc

Luc Malo Bloc Verchères—Les Patriotes, QC

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Thank you for joining us this morning.

I would also like to thank my colleague from Richmond—Arthabaskafor introducing the motion inviting you to present this issue to the committee.

I would also like to thank the committee members for agreeing to see you.

Your presentation gave an overview of two issues. Firstly, there are unpaid accounts, and there is no money to pay the market. Secondly, there is the issue of what will happen to these fields.

I heard all these feelings of hopelessness. I even heard that a psychologist was called in to meet with the producers.

I would like for Mr. Gemme and Mr. St-Aubin to speak to me about what is going on in people’s minds, because I am scared that they may commit a serious act that cannot be undone. Tell me about how these people feel, their state of mind.

11:45 a.m.

President and Farmer, AMA-Terre

Philippe Gemme

I visited all of Saint-Amable’s farms, accompanied by representatives of the Canadian Food Inspection Agency and Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada. It was the worst day of my life. I saw all the emotion, the tears, the despair. People were shaking their heads.

Saint-Amable may not be a large municipality, but every producer markets, whether in the horticultural sector or in another sector. These are proud people, and the youth are ready to take over. You don’t see that in other areas. We can easily count some twenty young men and women managing twenty businesses, which is a lot. The average age isn’t even thirty years old.

The young people are, you could say, pushing the older workers into retirement. There is no lack of young workers to take over the farms. That day, people were wondering what was happening, what they were going to do. Destroying potatoes while the fields are good shape is unthinkable. It is unbelievable that there will be no potatoes in Saint-Amable in 2007. It is one of the nicest regions in Quebec. There’s no irrigation, no rocks. The terrain is flat. We calculate an average of 300 hundredweights, at least, every year. Production costs are relatively low. Yields are high, compared to the provincial average. The boys can’t accept when we tell them to plant corn at $300 an acre when they currently make $3,000 to $4,000. They’ve maybe invested a million dollars in their buildings. For example, I invested over $200,000 this year. In our region, custom work, whether it be leveling or drainage, is estimated at a half million dollars a year. Producers are having trouble coming to grips with the fact that there won’t be any more potatoes.

Every day, the young people ask us what will happen next year. We also have to think long term, and say that next year, we could plant carrots. If we plant carrots, someone will be “bumped” down the line. Processing operations already have their producers, the carrot farmers. Morale is very low. I don’t want to be an alarmist, but morale among the men, women and the young people is very low. People are wondering whether they’ll have work next week, or in two weeks. We don’t know. We don’t have the answers. We are in talks with the federal and provincial governments, but things aren’t moving forward. One thing is certain, the stores are full and bills have to be paid, but there’s no money. This has to stop, and soon.

11:45 a.m.

Vice-President, AMA-Terre

Richard St-Aubin

With regard to the horticultural sector and the nurseries, some productions are staggered for periods of one to ten years. We were asked to destroy plants because we transport soil. We extract the plants and transport soil. The nematodes aren’t on our plants, they’re in the soil. Our restrictions are huge. We all have particular processes. We are forced to get out of the markets, are lives are being taken away.

Our parents ran nurseries, we run nurseries, and our children want to do the same. A sentimental and emotional dream has been taken away. These are our lives! We raise our trees like they’re our children, we take care of them, we feed them like we would a child. We are people who provide scenery and joy, and we’ve been cut off at the knees. We no longer have any means to survive, and we want to know what we can do to preserve our markets and find means to live. Our region is viable, there is no question about that.

Today, we are on the brink of disaster. Yesterday, we had to give answers to our clients, who are worried and afraid of nematodes. They don’t know how the public will react to the nematodes. The general public doesn’t really understand what is going on. We have to deal with this. It’s out of our control. We have been cut off from the markets, we’re out of the markets.

Thank you.

11:50 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Gerry Ritz

You have 30 seconds left, Mr. Malo.

11:50 a.m.

Bloc

Luc Malo Bloc Verchères—Les Patriotes, QC

You put these questions to Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada and the Canadian Food Inspection Agency. How long have you been asking for funds to help you to resolve this short-term crisis?

11:50 a.m.

Vice-President, AMA-Terre

Richard St-Aubin

We have asked these questions since our first visits to the Agency. In the present case, we even asked too many questions too quickly. We got scared when we were told that we were faced with a monstrous problem, and we didn’t get any answers to our many questions.

We were told that analyses revealed that 85% of our land was contaminated, but we weren’t given the results for each tract of land. These results would allow us to determine which fields are infected. That is where we’re at right now.

11:50 a.m.

President, Fédération des producteurs de pommes de terre du Québec

Pierre Chouinard

To answer your specific question, I think that nematodes were discovered in Quebec, in the Saint-Amable region, in mid-July or so. Since the beginning, we knew that this discovery would have a significant economic impact on the affected producers.

Two-and-a-half to three months later, we are still desperately seeking assistance for producers affected by golden nematode in Quebec. I think that this has gone on long enough. We have a parasite subject to mandatory reporting. It’s an exceptional measure for an exceptional risk, and we have to have an exceptional program to cover these producers. They have better things to do than to worry about the financial impact of this disaster. They have to deal with the psychological impact. It’s very important to them. They are asking for help to get through this crisis and a ad hoc program to cover their medium and long-term losses.

11:50 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Gerry Ritz

Thank you, gentlemen.

11:50 a.m.

President and Farmer, AMA-Terre

Philippe Gemme

I would like to add something, if I may.

In the Saint-Amable region, land is worth about $7,000 to $8,000 an arpent. One would think that if people pay $7,000 to $8,000 an arpent, that it would be viable. We created AMA-Terre to be more united. But being “united” doesn’t mean much when no money is coming in.

I don’t have any answers to these questions. When I asked the person who called me what she was doing today, she told me she was having a drink, because she learned that another one of her fields tested positive. Another told me not to bother anymore, because it was pointless. That’s the reality that Saint-Amable is facing.

Will we wait another two, three months? Will we wait until tragedy strikes Saint-Amable? If your pay cheque was cut for three months and you had to pay a $350,000 mortgage, you can be sure that someone would be up in arms. That’s what we’re currently going through in Saint-Amable. We can’t do anything, but we still have to pay our rent. How are we supposed to do it?

Please find an answer, because I haven’t found any yet.

Thank you very much.