Evidence of meeting #21 for Agriculture and Agri-Food in the 40th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was farmers.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

William Wilton  President, Prairie Oat Growers Association
Kevin Bender  President, Western Canadian Wheat Growers Association
Larry Hill  Chair, Board of Directors, Canadian Wheat Board
Ian White  President and Chief Executive Officer, Canadian Wheat Board
Richard Phillips  Executive Director, Grain Growers of Canada
Monique McTiernan  Executive Director, Atlantic Grains Council, Grain Growers of Canada
Blair Rutter  Executive Director, Western Canadian Wheat Growers Association
Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Isabelle Duford

12:55 p.m.

Conservative

Brian Storseth Conservative Westlock—St. Paul, AB

That the chair's ruling is being sustained...?

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Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal Mark Eyking

That would be your motion.

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Conservative

Brian Storseth Conservative Westlock—St. Paul, AB

We're challenging the ruling of the chair.

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Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal Mark Eyking

You're challenging my ruling.

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Conservative

Brian Storseth Conservative Westlock—St. Paul, AB

For the information of everybody at the table, so we're clear, a yea vote--

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Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal Mark Eyking

Mr. Easter.

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Liberal

Wayne Easter Liberal Malpeque, PE

I don't know whether we can deal with this now, with the challenge to the chair, but the fact of the matter is that if you're going to put a motion, you have to have unanimous consent of the committee. If we're going to debate the report, we are going to have to spend some time on asking the Wheat Board, on this report, what are the commercial implications to Canada as a result--

12:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal Mark Eyking

Mr. Easter, we can't debate this. There is a motion to challenge the chair and that the chair's ruling be sustained. So I think we have to go with yeas and nays on this.

12:55 p.m.

Conservative

Brian Storseth Conservative Westlock—St. Paul, AB

Mr. Chairman, we're not asking for debate. We're asking for clarification for the new members, and all the members, to make sure they know exactly what they are voting on if they are voting yea or if they're voting nay. Could the clerk describe that?

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Liberal

Frank Valeriote Liberal Guelph, ON

[Inaudible--Editor]

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An hon. member

No coaching the chair, Mr. Valeriote. Come on now, he's supposed to be independent.

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Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal Mark Eyking

It's very simple, I think. There was a ruling on a motion, and I didn't see it fit. You're questioning the chair's ruling on that, so you're asking that the chair's ruling be sustained. We're going to bring it to a vote and it has to be--

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Conservative

Brian Storseth Conservative Westlock—St. Paul, AB

I'm not actually asking for the chair's ruling to be sustained. I'm looking to overturn the chair's ruling.

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Conservative

Steven Blaney Conservative Lévis—Bellechasse, QC

But I think the question is, will the chair's ruling be sustained? So we would vote no.

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Conservative

Brian Storseth Conservative Westlock—St. Paul, AB

We want to be clear, because the wording that he is—

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Liberal

Wayne Easter Liberal Malpeque, PE

Did the Prime Minister's Office not give you the proper directions, guys, or what?

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Conservative

Brian Storseth Conservative Westlock—St. Paul, AB

I want to make sure Frank knows.

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Liberal

Wayne Easter Liberal Malpeque, PE

You should know. It's the little guys behind you there. Is the proper direction coming forward?

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Conservative

Brian Storseth Conservative Westlock—St. Paul, AB

You have the floor, Mr. Chair.

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Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal Mark Eyking

Order.

If you vote yea, it maintains the chair's ruling. If you vote nay, you don't go with the chair's ruling.

All in favour of the chair's ruling will signify by raising their hand.

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An hon. member

It's a recorded vote.

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Liberal

Wayne Easter Liberal Malpeque, PE

Mr. Chair, it's a set-up.

(Ruling of the chair overturned: nays 6; yeas 5)

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Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal Mark Eyking

The chair's ruling has not passed. So that means the motion will go forward.

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Liberal

Wayne Easter Liberal Malpeque, PE

It means the motion will be debated.

12:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal Mark Eyking

Yes, it will be debated.

I just want a little clarification from the committee. It was noted at our last meeting that we wanted to deal with this bill; and we were going to extend the meeting past one o'clock to deal with the bill.

Whether we get into a debate on where we're going to go for the next hour.... If you want to debate this motion for a while, we will, but we have the government officials here dealing with the other bill.

So right now, do you want to go ahead with this motion and should we keep the witnesses here?