Evidence of meeting #2 for Agriculture and Agri-Food in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was producers.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

James M. Laws  Executive Director, Canadian Meat Council
Bob Reid  Producer, As an Individual
Curtiss Littlejohn  Producer, As an Individual
Jurgen Preugschas  Chair, Canadian Pork Council
Jean-Guy Vincent  Vice-President, Canadian Pork Council
Stephen Moffett  Director, Canadian Pork Council

5:15 p.m.

Director, Canadian Pork Council

Stephen Moffett

But I will tell you what I think. Certainly since last August and last fall, as Curtiss mentioned, prices were really low. The U.S. wholesale price of pork was 45¢ to 50¢, and now it's 75¢. So that's a dramatic increase just since last August, let's say, at the height of the H1N1 crisis.

If you look at futures, which is probably one of the best ways of predicting what the price will be in the future--it's certainly by no means accurate, but it's what we use--we see better prices this summer. We would see that the producers would likely be making a small profit this summer, based on what the futures are telling us at this point.

Beyond that, futures are looking at lower prices again next winter and then good prices again the following summer, and that's fairly typical. We've gone through a tough three-year situation, and you would expect that the next two years would be good.

So I would suggest that 2010 could be an okay year and that 2011 hopefully will be a good year for hog producers. Our biggest challenge to that, of course, is the Canadian dollar. The question was asked a little while ago. You hear more and more people suggesting a par dollar or the dollar even going above par. In the long, long run it doesn't really matter where it is because the economy adjusts. Our challenge is that as long as it's increasing, it makes us uncompetitive. It makes Jim's industry uncompetitive and it makes our industry uncompetitive. Some of our inputs automatically adjust, like grain prices, but our labour costs and most of our normal costs don't automatically adjust. They do over a long period of time, but as long as the dollar keeps increasing, it really makes it tough for us.

So we're at 98¢ now. If we could stay at 90¢ to 95¢, and just stay there, I could see us being in pretty good shape over the next two or three years. If the dollar continues to increase, it's going to make it hard.

But I didn't answer your question exactly, because I don't know.

5:15 p.m.

Conservative

Pierre Lemieux Conservative Glengarry—Prescott—Russell, ON

No, that's okay. I actually just wanted your impressions, not a definitive answer, because there aren't many definitive statements that people can make at this point in time. So I appreciate that.

Thank you.

5:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Larry Miller

Thanks, Mr. Lemieux.

I think it's certainly good to hear--we know the issues in there--and good to see a little bit of light at the end of that tunnel, as you said, Mr. Moffett. I know that all of us around this table certainly hope the prices do improve over the next couple of years. So that's good.

Again, we just have a little bit of committee business to finish up here, but I'd like to thank all of you for travelling here. I think we heard, as Mr. Lemieux said, a pretty consistent message. Again, thank you very much. I think it was very good. Thanks again.

We'll talk to you in a minute, but I just have to talk with the members here.

In just a couple of minutes we will have the subcommittee report. The subcommittee met this morning, and we just have one small change to the report. I did have a chance to speak to the members who were at that this morning. I believe the clerk is passing out the report. The minister and the department staff were having problems with the dates that we had suggested in there. They are all available to come this Wednesday.

So if we could take this report, we can juggle the dates in there to basically get all the business done. It's just a matter of changing some of the dates. If you allow the clerk and I to do that, none of the business that was approved by the subcommittee this morning will be deleted from that. We'll just have to manage our time a little better.

Okay?

So I would entertain a motion to pass that subcommittee report as amended, if possible.

It is moved by André.

Any discussion?

All in favour?

(Motion agreed to)

Yes, Wayne.

5:20 p.m.

Liberal

Wayne Easter Liberal Malpeque, PE

So is the minister here on estimates on Wednesday?

5:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Larry Miller

Yes, and the department staff and CFIA, I presume.

5:20 p.m.

Liberal

Wayne Easter Liberal Malpeque, PE

Is he going to be here for two hours?

5:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Larry Miller

The request went out.

5:20 p.m.

Liberal

Wayne Easter Liberal Malpeque, PE

For two.

5:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Larry Miller

Yes. That was something that was asked for.

Thank you.

The meeting is adjourned.