Evidence of meeting #1 for Agriculture and Agri-Food in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was shipley.
A recording is available from Parliament.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Pat Finnigan
I think the parliamentary secretary can attend a réunion, as we have him here today.
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Conservative
Chris Warkentin Conservative Grande Prairie—Mackenzie, AB
They don't attend the agenda and procedures—
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Conservative
Chris Warkentin Conservative Grande Prairie—Mackenzie, AB
Members who are not members of the committee cannot attend that meeting unless we make a special provision that they can.
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Liberal
Francis Drouin Liberal Glengarry—Prescott—Russell, ON
I understand what you're saying, but the idea for having two members of the government was actually to have the parliamentary secretary convey information to one of the members if there's information that the subcommittee should be informed about. That was the idea behind having two members of the government.
As you know, in the past the parliamentary secretary sat on the subcommittee, but he no longer does. However, I think the parliamentary secretary was to convey that information to one of the members, and that was the idea for having two members of the government.
4:05 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Pat Finnigan
Thank you.
Are there any other comments? No.
I will read the motion again. It is “That the Subcommittee on Agenda and Procedure”—
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Conservative
Chris Warkentin Conservative Grande Prairie—Mackenzie, AB
Sorry. I do apologize. I think we understand. The proposal, then, disallows the parliamentary secretary from attending those meetings. Is that the proposal the Liberals are submitting?
Okay. Very good.
4:05 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Pat Finnigan
Okay, we'll continue with the motion. It reads:
That the Subcommittee on Agenda and Procedure be established and composed of the Chair, two Vice-Chairs and 2 members of the government
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Conservative
Chris Warkentin Conservative Grande Prairie—Mackenzie, AB
I think we'd prefer it to say “one member of the New Democratic Party, one member of the Conservative Party, and two members of the Liberal Party”.
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Liberal
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Conservative
Chris Warkentin Conservative Grande Prairie—Mackenzie, AB
We should not speak to the vice-chairs or who those members would be. The allocation should be in terms of those specific parties. We don't want to speak to which members of—
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Conservative
Chris Warkentin Conservative Grande Prairie—Mackenzie, AB
No, we want them not named. We want them simply as members of the respective parties.
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Liberal
Francis Drouin Liberal Glengarry—Prescott—Russell, ON
No, I think the motion is fine. It's the chair, two vice-chairs, and two members of the government.
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Conservative
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Conservative
Chris Warkentin Conservative Grande Prairie—Mackenzie, AB
The one I have says, “That the Subcommittee on Agenda and Procedure be established and composed of the Chair, one member of the New Democratic Party, two members of the Liberal Party, and two members of the Conservative Party”.
Sorry, it's one member of the Conservative Party, so one—
4:10 p.m.
Liberal
Lloyd Longfield Liberal Guelph, ON
I think we've got two different versions of a document, because ours has “That the Subcommittee on Agenda and Procedure be established and composed of the Chair, two Vice-Chairs and 2 members of the government”.
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Conservative
Chris Warkentin Conservative Grande Prairie—Mackenzie, AB
We don't want that. We just want it to be members generally.
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Conservative
Bev Shipley Conservative Lambton—Kent—Middlesex, ON
The last one that was just given out was the one that Mr. Warkentin just read. Just for clarification, we've got to be talking on the same page.
4:10 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Pat Finnigan
I guess the motion that we will go with is the one that I've just read:
That the Subcommittee on Agenda and Procedure be established and composed of the Chair, two Vice-Chairs and 2 members of the government
Is there any—
4:10 p.m.
Conservative
Chris Warkentin Conservative Grande Prairie—Mackenzie, AB
We would prefer that it simply be “one member of the New Democratic Party, one member of the Conservative Party, and two members of the Liberal Party”. We'll leave it to the parties to determine who among their members shows up at that meeting.
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Liberal