Evidence of meeting #4 for Bill C-18 (41st Parliament, 1st Session) in the 41st Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was board.
A recording is available from Parliament.
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Blaine Calkins
I believe we're speaking to.... Are you speaking to the correct amendment, sir?
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NDP
Pat Martin NDP Winnipeg Centre, MB
I hope so.
Apparently, I'm not. I thought you said it was amendment NDP-3.
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Conservative
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Blaine Calkins
My apologies: my number says NDP-3, Mr. Martin. I apologize if the copy you have is inconsistent with mine.
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NDP
Pat Martin NDP Winnipeg Centre, MB
Right, just so that I'm abundantly clear on this, your analyst is saying that all of the clauses associated with the directors, the appointment of directors, the number of directors have already been approved, and so therefore our amendment associated with the directors being fired is out of order. Is that correct?
6:45 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Blaine Calkins
I believe it was because clause 2 carried, which clearly set out the decision on the composition of the board of directors, any decision that would be proposed to change it has already been tested, if I understand that correctly....
Is that...?
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A voice
In part 1 of the bill.
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Conservative
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Liberal
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Conservative
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Liberal
Wayne Easter Liberal Malpeque, PE
That's good. It's nice.
There seems to be some confusion as I'm going through... I'm going through the act and having a hard time being assured that I'm on the same number that you're voting on--and you're going through it a little too rapidly, in my view.
Just clarify for us which section you were on, and what act...? Are you working from Bill C-18 itself?
6:45 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Blaine Calkins
Mr. Easter, I have in front of me the proposed amendments and a sheet that carries me through in clause-by-clause. It's been prepared for me by the clerk. What I have in front of me, I can only assume you have in front of you. What I have in front of me is.... I've called up to clause 8, as carried in the bill on division.
I'm working on clause 9. The document I'm working from, Mr. Easter, has in the top right corner a stamp that says “NDP-3”. Under that it says “Clause/Article 9” in the English version.
6:50 p.m.
Liberal
Wayne Easter Liberal Malpeque, PE
Mr. Chair, just try it this way. The clause that you're in.... I'm not worried about the amendment; I have it in front of me. But clause 9, in the act I'm working from, says, “Subsection 4(2) of the Act is replaced by the following...”. Is that the one we're on?
6:50 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Blaine Calkins
I'm sorry, Mr. Easter, for not understanding your question.
Mr. Martin, do you need a few minutes?
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Blaine Calkins
If you would like to resume with Liberal time, Mr. Easter, by all means, I'll grant you that today.
6:50 p.m.
Liberal
Wayne Easter Liberal Malpeque, PE
In clause 9, it says it “is not a Crown corporation”. As I understand it, yes, with a crown corporation the government normally can give direction to it; however, in this bill, this is not a crown corporation, but basically the whole act--the whole Canadian Wheat Board--is going to be, when you go through it in full, micromanaged by the minister
How is that possible when this is not in fact a crown corporation? It's going to be run by the government, but it's not a crown corporation. How is that possible?
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NDP
Pat Martin NDP Winnipeg Centre, MB
I can shed some light on that, Mr. Chairman.
I have no intention of moving this particular amendment. It was submitted in error and I should not have moved this. As the mover, I would like to withdraw it.