Evidence of meeting #36 for Environment and Sustainable Development in the 41st Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site.) The winning word was park.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Angela Crandall
Justin Vaive  Legislative Clerk, House of Commons
Michael Martin  Deputy Minister, Department of the Environment

5:05 p.m.

NDP

François Choquette NDP Drummond, QC

Actually, that's the next question I was going to ask you.

I know that you just accepted the position. It was in July, right? So that's not much time,but since you already have a lot of experience in international climate change negotiations, I am sure you are already aware of the latest report from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, the IPCC. You know that the conference in Lima will take place soon, and the one in Paris is in 2015. Have you had time to start looking at Canada's long-term plan regarding, as you mentioned, the climate change negotiations?

5:05 p.m.

Deputy Minister, Department of the Environment

Michael Martin

Climate change is still a major concern for the department and for me, personally. Of course, we are continuing to take part in negotiations to obtain a global agreement in Paris that will promote global progress in fighting climate change.

November 5th, 2014 / 5:05 p.m.

NDP

François Choquette NDP Drummond, QC

That's excellent. Actually, I think climate change will be the challenge of our generation and future generations. The Copenhagen conference was criticized, as you know, by a number of environmental and social stakeholders, among others, since there was no binding agreement, unlike the Kyoto Protocol. I hope that you have started looking at this to come up with a binding agreement in 2015 to be ratified in 2020. I know that you have just started as deputy minister, but you have significant experience. So I find it interesting to see that you have been appointed to the position. I would like to come back to the Copenhagen conference.

How much time do I have left?

5:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Harold Albrecht

You have 30 seconds.

5:05 p.m.

NDP

François Choquette NDP Drummond, QC

Could you please tell me quickly what your personal experience was in Copenhagen?

5:05 p.m.

Deputy Minister, Department of the Environment

Michael Martin

It was fascinating. It was a very large, very complex conference, and there were major debates as part of the negotiations, which are continuing, to reconcile sustainable development and the dynamics of current economic growth. Personally, I thought it was a great experience, but it was a major challenge. I was happy with Canada's contribution to the conference.

5:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Harold Albrecht

Thank you, Mr. Choquette.

We'll move now to Mr. Woodworth, for five minutes.

5:05 p.m.

Conservative

Stephen Woodworth Conservative Kitchener Centre, ON

I don't believe so.

5:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Harold Albrecht

No? Okay.

Is there anyone else?

5:05 p.m.

Conservative

Paul Calandra Conservative Oak Ridges—Markham, ON

Could I just have five?

5:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Harold Albrecht

Go ahead, Mr. Woodworth.

We're going to go with Mr. Woodworth and then Mr. McKay, and we'll probably end with that.

5:05 p.m.

Conservative

Stephen Woodworth Conservative Kitchener Centre, ON

Mr. Deputy Minister, could you tell me from what department you have come and what your position was there and how you feel it prepares you for your present position?

5:10 p.m.

Deputy Minister, Department of the Environment

Michael Martin

In my last job, I was the senior associate deputy minister of National Defence for about 17 months. Prior to that I was the deputy secretary of operations—

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

Paul Calandra Conservative Oak Ridges—Markham, ON

The what? Sorry, what was that? What did the member say?

What did you call me?

5:10 p.m.

Liberal

John McKay Liberal Scarborough—Guildwood, ON

Oh, sit down. Just sit down.

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

Paul Calandra Conservative Oak Ridges—Markham, ON

What did you call me? No, I don't take that.

What did he call me, Mr. Chair?

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Harold Albrecht

I have no idea. I didn't hear it.

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

Paul Calandra Conservative Oak Ridges—Markham, ON

What was it you called me, Mr. McKay?

Sorry, I have a point of order.

What was it that you called me?

5:10 p.m.

Liberal

John McKay Liberal Scarborough—Guildwood, ON

I don't have to answer any of your juvenile questions.

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Harold Albrecht

Mr. Calandra and Mr. McKay, please come to order.

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

Paul Calandra Conservative Oak Ridges—Markham, ON

I wonder if anybody heard what he called me.

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Harold Albrecht

Mr. Martin, please proceed.

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

Paul Calandra Conservative Oak Ridges—Markham, ON

Did anybody on this side of the table hear what he called me?

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Harold Albrecht

Mr. Calandra, please.

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

Paul Calandra Conservative Oak Ridges—Markham, ON

What did you mean by “the godfather”?