Evidence of meeting #10 for Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics in the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was mulroney.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Hon. Brian Mulroney  P.C., As an Individual

12:05 p.m.

NDP

Joe Comartin NDP Windsor—Tecumseh, ON

Who were they?

12:05 p.m.

P.C., As an Individual

Brian Mulroney

It's Alain Paris, in Montreal.

12:05 p.m.

NDP

Joe Comartin NDP Windsor—Tecumseh, ON

You've taken the position today that when this money was received it was not declarable as income taxable, because you did not provide an invoice or bill to Mr. Schreiber. Is that correct? Is that your position today?

12:05 p.m.

P.C., As an Individual

Brian Mulroney

No, because at the time, what I had used was simply money for expenses, and expenses are not taxable until the matter is resolved and the bill is sent.

12:05 p.m.

NDP

Joe Comartin NDP Windsor—Tecumseh, ON

Well, you practised law, Mr. Mulroney, for a long period of time--

12:05 p.m.

P.C., As an Individual

Brian Mulroney

Yes, I have.

12:05 p.m.

NDP

Joe Comartin NDP Windsor—Tecumseh, ON

--before you became Prime Minister, before you became a member of the House.

12:05 p.m.

P.C., As an Individual

Brian Mulroney

Yes, I did.

12:05 p.m.

NDP

Joe Comartin NDP Windsor—Tecumseh, ON

But you were not treating this as revenue coming in to you as a practising lawyer. Is that correct, from what I understood earlier today?

December 13th, 2007 / 12:05 p.m.

P.C., As an Individual

Brian Mulroney

It was completely separate from my law firm.

12:05 p.m.

NDP

Joe Comartin NDP Windsor—Tecumseh, ON

Okay, and how would you categorize...? Were you a consultant?

12:05 p.m.

P.C., As an Individual

12:05 p.m.

NDP

Joe Comartin NDP Windsor—Tecumseh, ON

You didn't see yourself as an employee of Thyssen.

12:05 p.m.

P.C., As an Individual

Brian Mulroney

No, I was an international consultant.

12:05 p.m.

NDP

Joe Comartin NDP Windsor—Tecumseh, ON

Just in that regard, in terms of employment, when you received the first $100,000--

12:05 p.m.

P.C., As an Individual

Brian Mulroney

It was $75,000.

12:05 p.m.

NDP

Joe Comartin NDP Windsor—Tecumseh, ON

--the $75,000, you were still being paid as a member of Parliament. Is that correct?

12:05 p.m.

P.C., As an Individual

Brian Mulroney

I think that's probably right, sir.

12:05 p.m.

NDP

Joe Comartin NDP Windsor—Tecumseh, ON

The record shows that you received a payment in August, late August.

12:05 p.m.

P.C., As an Individual

Brian Mulroney

I think that's probably right.

12:05 p.m.

NDP

Joe Comartin NDP Windsor—Tecumseh, ON

But again, you did not see yourself as an employee.

12:05 p.m.

P.C., As an Individual

Brian Mulroney

No, I did not.

12:05 p.m.

NDP

Joe Comartin NDP Windsor—Tecumseh, ON

Right. Did you see yourself as a consultant?

12:05 p.m.

P.C., As an Individual

Brian Mulroney

Yes, I did, sir.

12:05 p.m.

NDP

Joe Comartin NDP Windsor—Tecumseh, ON

All right. Were you registered as a lobbyist, either under the federal legislation or under any other legislation in this country at that time?