Evidence of meeting #10 for Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics in the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was mulroney.

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MPs speaking

Also speaking

Hon. Brian Mulroney  P.C., As an Individual

12:30 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

So the agreement you had with that law office, that partnership agreement that allowed you to have your independent international consulting business--would that still be in existence?

12:30 p.m.

P.C., As an Individual

Brian Mulroney

Yes, it is.

12:30 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

So would we be able to get a copy of that to see what the agreement was?

12:30 p.m.

P.C., As an Individual

12:30 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

Were you expecting to make money, as an individual, on your international consulting business?

12:30 p.m.

P.C., As an Individual

Brian Mulroney

I didn't have a clue.

12:30 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

Would you not have registered for a GST number, then?

12:30 p.m.

P.C., As an Individual

Brian Mulroney

I didn't have a clue when I started out.

12:30 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

From my perspective, we need some sense of proof that you were creating a legitimate second business for yourself, being a lawyer for the law firm plus this consulting business. I happen to be familiar with records-of-management issues and that you can get rid of them after seven years and so on. Do you have paper proof that you had a legitimate international consulting business on the side of your legal business? Can you provide this committee with anything?

12:30 p.m.

P.C., As an Individual

Brian Mulroney

With regard to this particular transaction?

12:30 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

Well, yes.... Have you done other business under that umbrella?

12:30 p.m.

P.C., As an Individual

Brian Mulroney

No, I have a legitimate international consulting business.

12:30 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

That you pay tax on every year?

12:30 p.m.

P.C., As an Individual

Brian Mulroney

Yes, of course.

I have indicated to all the members of the committee, this is the only transaction. That's why I'm here. To explain, to indicate to you what had happened, and also to acknowledge my error. This was the only transaction of this nature I've ever been involved with. Everything else, both with my law firm—which is one of the great law firms in Canadian history and has been around for 135 years—and with my consulting business, has been done in a perfectly—

12:30 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

Does your consulting business have a name?

12:30 p.m.

P.C., As an Individual

12:30 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

And it's legally registered to pay PST, GST, all that stuff?

12:30 p.m.

P.C., As an Individual

Brian Mulroney

Yes, absolutely.

12:30 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

So you'd be able to provide that information to us?

12:30 p.m.

P.C., As an Individual

12:30 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

So other than these dealings with Mr. Schreiber, everything else has a record we can look at.

12:30 p.m.

P.C., As an Individual

Brian Mulroney

Absolutely.

12:30 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

Okay.

I've seen you on television, Mr. Prime Minister, talking about a public inquiry, which this government has committed to. Mr. Schreiber wants one. You want one. I'm not sure I want one. But what are your expectations from the public inquiry, and why are you asking for it?

12:30 p.m.

P.C., As an Individual

Brian Mulroney

Let's put that, perhaps, in a different tense.

On November 7, Mr. Schreiber filed an affidavit, which provoked the feeding frenzy he wanted. It resulted in a “get out of jail” card and the creation of this committee, before whose members he appeared four or five times.

Provisions of the affidavit were chosen to provoke public concern and alarm, because he invoked the name of the present Prime Minister and a former Prime Minister and suggested impropriety at a given point in time and then made other statements in the affidavit as well that would raise legitimate matters of public concern. All hell broke loose, with everybody running around asking for a public inquiry. Statements were made that were so outrageous that quite frankly I was forced to sue my new friend, Mr. Thibault, for libel.

So at that time, what am I supposed to do? I'm sitting at home with my wife and my family. Here we go again, with a series of false accusations designed to destroy my reputation and drag me through the mud.

So as a result of that, I called to indicate my innocence...total innocence. I asked for a royal commission of inquiry into this. But when you look at what has happened now, the evidence that you have.... Let me just close on this, sir.

12:35 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

This is eating into my time, Mr. Chair.