Evidence of meeting #23 for Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics in the 41st Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was cba.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Judy Hunter  Lawyer, Legislation and Law Reform, Canadian Bar Association
Guy Giorno  Member, Canadian Bar Association
Jack Hughes  Member, Canadian Bar Association
Raymond Hudon  Professor, Department of Political Science, Université Laval

12:40 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP Jean Crowder

Are you moving that?

12:40 p.m.

NDP

Pierre-Luc Dusseault NDP Sherbrooke, QC

Yes, I'm tabling two motions. I will read them.

12:40 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP Jean Crowder

Sorry.

Mr. Del Mastro, on a point of order.

12:40 p.m.

Conservative

Dean Del Mastro Conservative Peterborough, ON

On a point of order, I'd just request, as is usual practice here at the committee, that we move in camera for consideration of motions, Madam Chairman.

12:40 p.m.

NDP

Pat Martin NDP Winnipeg Centre, MB

You can't make a motion on a point of order, can you? How can you make a motion on a point of order?

12:40 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP Jean Crowder

My understanding is you can't.

12:40 p.m.

Conservative

Dean Del Mastro Conservative Peterborough, ON

I'm not making a motion; I'm requesting that we move to standard procedure.

12:40 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP Jean Crowder

Sorry. You were on a point of order, Mr. Del Mastro.

12:40 p.m.

Conservative

Dean Del Mastro Conservative Peterborough, ON

This is a procedural point of order that we move in camera, as is normal practice here at the committee.

12:40 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP Jean Crowder

It's a motion, as I understand it, and you're on a point of order.

Monsieur Dusseault has the floor. That's not a point of order; that's moving a motion. My understanding is you can't move a motion on a point of order.

12:40 p.m.

NDP

Pierre-Luc Dusseault NDP Sherbrooke, QC

I'd already tabled a motion.

12:40 p.m.

Conservative

Dean Del Mastro Conservative Peterborough, ON

Can I request to be first on the list?

12:40 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP Jean Crowder

You can be first on the list after Monsieur Dusseault.

12:40 p.m.

Conservative

Dean Del Mastro Conservative Peterborough, ON

I recognize Mr. Dusseault. He has the floor.

Just for the committee's information, those motions were distributed publicly.

Monsieur Dusseault, for your motion.

12:40 p.m.

NDP

Pierre-Luc Dusseault NDP Sherbrooke, QC

The first motion reads as follows:That, in light of witness testimony heard regarding offences under the Lobbyist Registration Act, the Standing Committee on Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics call representatives of the Office of the Public Prosecution Service of Canada to testify with regard to the interpretation of the provisions of the act.

12:45 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP Jean Crowder

You can speak to that motion since you have the floor, Monsieur Dusseault.

12:45 p.m.

NDP

Pierre-Luc Dusseault NDP Sherbrooke, QC

It says at the beginning "in light of witness testimony heard". As Messrs. Giorno and Hudon reiterated here today, it's important to hear from representatives from the RCMP so that they can explain how they operate and why they did not follow up in all these cases. The RCMP's function is important under the Lobbyists Registration Act. Therefore, if we examine the Lobbyists Registration Act, I think it would be important to hear these people and find out what they have to say about this.

The other motion is about—

12:45 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP Jean Crowder

I'm sorry, Monsieur Dusseault, you can only move one motion at a time, so if you could, stay on your current motion.

12:45 p.m.

NDP

Pierre-Luc Dusseault NDP Sherbrooke, QC

Well, I hope that all members of the committee will agree with the witnesses who indicated that in their opinion they agreed with us that the committee should hear people from the RCMP.

12:45 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP Jean Crowder

Mr. Del Mastro, you have the floor.

12:45 p.m.

Conservative

Dean Del Mastro Conservative Peterborough, ON

Thank you.

I move that the committee move in camera for consideration of the motion.

12:45 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP Jean Crowder

It's not debatable.

(Motion agreed to)

We'll suspend while we move in camera.

[Proceedings continue in camera]