Evidence of meeting #30 for Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics in the 41st Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.

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11 a.m.

NDP

The Chair Jean Crowder

We're in public.

Mr. Angus.

11 a.m.

NDP

Charlie Angus Timmins—James Bay, ON

Yes, I would like to bring forward a motion to rescind the motion regarding Mr. Carroll.

Shall we vote on that?

As you pointed out, this was beyond the purview of our committee. You rejected this; this has been a personal witch hunt of Mr. Del Mastro's, and it has turned our committee into a circus and a farce. So we'd like to rescind that motion right now.

11 a.m.

NDP

The Chair Jean Crowder

I need you to clarify that motion for the clerk.

11 a.m.

NDP

Charlie Angus Timmins—James Bay, ON

Well, we would like to rescind the motion.

11 a.m.

NDP

The Chair Jean Crowder

I need some clarification. We can't rescind the motion as the summons has already been served, so I need you to be more specific about what the motion is.

11 a.m.

NDP

Charlie Angus Timmins—James Bay, ON

What we would like to do is rescind the motion that has been served, because it has turned our committee into a farce. It makes us look as though we are doing the personal work of Mr. Del Mastro, who uses the committee as a bully pulpit. This committee has important work to do with ethics, accountability, and privacy issues. We are trying to ensure that the government is held accountable. But we have been turned into a stage for Mr. Del Mastro to carry out his very thuggish and inappropriate activities. You had ruled before, Madam Chair, that this was beyond the purview of the committee, so I would like to put it to a vote that we cancel this summons.

11 a.m.

NDP

The Chair Jean Crowder

I'm sorry, Mr. Angus. I need more clarification. We can't rescind a motion to serve a summons when the summons has already been served.

11 a.m.

NDP

Charlie Angus Timmins—James Bay, ON

We are bringing forward a motion to say that this is unnecessary and it's an overreach. We'd like to vote on it.

11 a.m.

NDP

The Chair Jean Crowder

I need to suspend for one moment. We need to get some information, so I'll suspend.

11:05 a.m.

NDP

The Chair Jean Crowder

Thank you.

Mr. Angus, if your motion was to rescind the summons, then the motion would be in order, because the summons has already been served. So I just need clarification.

11:05 a.m.

NDP

Charlie Angus Timmins—James Bay, ON

You're saying it would be in order?

11:05 a.m.

NDP

The Chair Jean Crowder

It would be in order.

11:05 a.m.

NDP

Charlie Angus Timmins—James Bay, ON

Yes, that's what I thought.

11:05 a.m.

NDP

The Chair Jean Crowder

So there's debate. You have the floor, Mr. Angus.

Mr. Andrews.

11:05 a.m.

Liberal

Scott Andrews Avalon, NL

I have a point of order.

I just checked the speakers list. I believe when Mr. Angus made his motion I had my hand up first to speak to this, and I believe Mr. Morin did as well.