Evidence of meeting #2 for Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics in the 41st Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was independent.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Dara Lithwick  Committee Researcher
Maxime-Olivier Thibodeau  Analyst, Library of Parliament
Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Chad Mariage

10:35 a.m.

Conservative

Paul Calandra Conservative Oak Ridges—Markham, ON

Could you repeat the quote, because I didn't get it.

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NDP

Mathieu Ravignat NDP Pontiac, QC

I'd be happy to repeat it, yes.

Essentially, under the rubric of “conservatism”:

• belief in the value of established and traditional practices in politics and society

• dislike of change or new ideas....

in a political setting.

10:35 a.m.

Conservative

Paul Calandra Conservative Oak Ridges—Markham, ON

Just one more point of clarification.

I know the member ran for the Marxist–Leninist Party. I wonder if he has a definition of that as well which he might be able to read out.

10:35 a.m.

NDP

Mathieu Ravignat NDP Pontiac, QC

I actually didn't. You've got the wrong party, but—

10:35 a.m.

Conservative

Paul Calandra Conservative Oak Ridges—Markham, ON

Was it the Communist Party? I'm not sure which it was, but I wonder if he has that definition handy as well.

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An hon. member

Bolsheviks.

10:35 a.m.

Conservative

Paul Calandra Conservative Oak Ridges—Markham, ON

Is that what it was? Oh, okay.

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NDP

The Chair NDP Pat Martin

Mr. Calandra, you don't have a point of order.

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NDP

Mathieu Ravignat NDP Pontiac, QC

If I may continue, there's—

10:35 a.m.

Conservative

Paul Calandra Conservative Oak Ridges—Markham, ON

Sorry, Mr. Angus's point has got me—

10:35 a.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP Pat Martin

Yes, I know. Well, we're setting the bar kind of—

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NDP

Mathieu Ravignat NDP Pontiac, QC

Red-baiting went out of style with McCarthyism, by the way.

It only points to the fact that what you are is not a conservative party, you're an authoritarian party. That was my point, and thank you for making that so obvious.

10:35 a.m.

Conservative

Paul Calandra Conservative Oak Ridges—Markham, ON

A point of order.

10:35 a.m.

NDP

Mathieu Ravignat NDP Pontiac, QC

By the way, I'm not in front of the committee—

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NDP

The Chair NDP Pat Martin

Order.

Excuse me, Mr. Ravignat, we have a—

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NDP

Mathieu Ravignat NDP Pontiac, QC

—being called out on a witch hunt.

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NDP

The Chair NDP Pat Martin

Excuse me, Mr. Ravignat—

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NDP

Mathieu Ravignat NDP Pontiac, QC

I'm speaking as a member of Parliament.

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NDP

The Chair NDP Pat Martin

Order. We have a point of order.

Mr. Calandra.

10:35 a.m.

Conservative

Paul Calandra Conservative Oak Ridges—Markham, ON

Mr. Chair, I respect your judgment. Certainly the NDP opposition—I don't want to say the Liberal opposition because they're not—have become very angry, and the language they're using is, I think, very offensive—

10:40 a.m.

NDP

Charlie Angus NDP Timmins—James Bay, ON

That's not a point of order. That's just a silly intervention.

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Conservative

Paul Calandra Conservative Oak Ridges—Markham, ON

—to committee. I wonder if you would just watch the inappropriate language that they're using—

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NDP

Mathieu Ravignat NDP Pontiac, QC

I had the floor. Could—

10:40 a.m.

NDP

Charlie Angus NDP Timmins—James Bay, ON

It's not a point of order.

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Conservative

Paul Calandra Conservative Oak Ridges—Markham, ON

—so that Canadians don't have to be subjected to such inappropriate language, because, as they say, they are watching at home.