Evidence of meeting #13 for Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.
A recording is available from Parliament.
11:20 a.m.
Liberal
Iqra Khalid Liberal Mississauga—Erin Mills, ON
Thank you, Chair.
In the first line, it would replace “Standing Order 108(3)(h)” with “Standing Order 109”.
Starting after the first comma up to the colon after Standing Order 109, the wording “the committee undertake a study into issues of conflict of interest and the Lobbying Act in relation to pandemic spending provided that” would be replaced with “the Standing Committee on Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics request”. The wording in paragraph (a) would be replaced with “that the government table a comprehensive response to the report entitled 'Questions of Conflict of Interest and Lobbying in Relation to Pandemic Spending', originally adopted as the committee's second report in the second session of the 43rd Parliament”, and then the wording in paragraph (b) would be replaced with “that the response to the report be tabled no later than June 17, 2022”, and then paragraphs (c) and (d) would be deleted.
11:20 a.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Pat Kelly
Thank you, Ms. Khalid.
I'm conferring with the clerk about the drafting mechanics.
I think the way to do this, rather than to edit the motion above to capture your intention, is that you can simply add the part you read, “pursuant to Standing Order 109”, to what exists. I'm told that it's going to be easier if you do that as a parts (e) and (f) to the existing (a), (b), (c), (d). You'll have (a), (b), (c), (d), and (e) pursuant to Standing Order 109, requesting a government response—as you read—and then (f) would be requesting a response by June 17.
11:20 a.m.
Liberal
Iqra Khalid Liberal Mississauga—Erin Mills, ON
I'm sorry, Mr. Chair. I don't think that captures the intent of what I'm trying to do.
Maybe it would be best to suspend for a couple of minutes, while you figure this out between yourself and the clerk?
11:20 a.m.
Conservative
Damien Kurek Conservative Battle River—Crowfoot, AB
Mr. Chair, Matthew said he couldn't hear what you said, so you probably want to repeat the last part.
11:20 a.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Pat Kelly
Before my mike was activated, I said that while I may do just that, Ms. Khalid, and suspend in a moment, I saw some frantic waves from Mr. Fergus and Mr. Bezan to get in quickly.
If you have a quick comment before I suspend to work this out or if you have something you want to get on the record before I suspend, go ahead.
11:20 a.m.
Liberal
Greg Fergus Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC
Mr. Chair, if the intention was to suspend to try to figure out what the right thing to do is, then I will suspend. I had a point of order.
11:20 a.m.
Conservative
James Bezan Conservative Selkirk—Interlake—Eastman, MB
My question is whether changing the standing order from 108 to 109 changes the intent of the motion. I don't mind changing it and Standing Order 109 being added in, as you suggested, at the end of the motion. It still accomplishes what Ms. Khalid wants to do, which is require a report. It puts a timeline on when the report and the response from the government can happen.
11:25 a.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Pat Kelly
Okay. I'm going to suspend to confer with the clerk and I'll resume in public as soon as possible.
The meeting is suspended.
11:45 a.m.
Conservative
11:45 a.m.
Liberal
Iqra Khalid Liberal Mississauga—Erin Mills, ON
Thank you, Chair.
Before we suspended, I had proposed an amendment to the main motion. If it's okay with the committee, I would like to withdraw that amendment at this time.
11:45 a.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Pat Kelly
Thank you.
It does require unanimous consent of the committee to withdraw. Since we're in a hybrid meeting, I will do this in reverse and ask if anybody is opposed to Ms. Khalid withdrawing her amendment.
I have Mr. Villemure.
11:45 a.m.
Bloc
René Villemure Bloc Trois-Rivières, QC
I couldn't hear what Ms. Khalid said. My translation was not working.
11:45 a.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Pat Kelly
Ms. Khalid is asking for unanimous consent to withdraw her amendment. I am asking if there is anybody who objects to the withdrawal of Ms. Khalid's amendment. I see none.
(Amendment withdrawn)
We are back to debate on the main motion.
I had Monsieur Villemure as the next speaker on my list.
You have the floor, Monsieur Villemure.
11:45 a.m.
Bloc
René Villemure Bloc Trois-Rivières, QC
Mr. Chair, after our last meeting I sent a notice of motion to the members of the committee.
11:45 a.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Pat Kelly
That's not in order at this time. You can't move another motion until this motion has been adopted—
11:45 a.m.
Some hon. members
Oh, oh!
11:45 a.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Pat Kelly
That's okay.
No problem.
Did we have any other interventions?
Okay. If there are no other speakers, we will go to the vote on the main motion. I would ask the clerk to go ahead and call the vote.
Does anybody object to the adoption of Mr. Kurek's motion?
Yes, there are objections. Shall we go to a recorded vote or have it adopted on division?
11:50 a.m.
Conservative
11:50 a.m.
The Clerk of the Committee Ms. Nancy Vohl
Mr. Chair, the result is five yeas and five nays.